Talk:Searching for Sugar Man

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The top of this article calls the film a "mockumentary" but everything I have seen indicates this is a true film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.174.239.175 (talk) 03:11, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is it necessary to mention that the documentary is "Swedish/British"? Is it important? Moreover, do documentaries/movies have a nationality? Other movies on wikipedia make no mention of the country. E.g. Jurrasic Park is not described as an "American movie". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.235.100.9 (talk) 13:51, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Omissions[edit]

"He toured Australia in 1979, 1981, 2007, with the Mark Gillespie Band and Midnight Oil, and for the East Coast Blues & Roots Festival.[8][9]"

The movie details the fans' trying to find Rodriguez in the late nineties, how can the 2007 concerts be relevant then? NiklasBr (talk) 22:34, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I won't revert-war over it, but this re-insertion seems to me original research and POV.[1] It constructs an argument through inference; this connection with the film's omissions is not explicitly made in the documentary. Phrases like "it is perhaps forgiveable" are obvious editorializing. It's also problematic that the unsourced rebuttal by a Wikipedia editor is given more weight and discussion in the article than the sourced criticism.

Is it not possible to find a major critic who makes this argument? If no secondary source can be found holding this opinion, it suggests to me that this rebuttal isn't important enough to include in the article. For now I'll add an original research tag. Thanks to everybody working on this article! -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:13, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the content per WP:BURDEN. Without citation, it constitutes original research. It should not be restored without actual referencing. Erik (talk | contribs) 21:27, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is mentioned in the movie that the censorship in South Africa at the time caused a distinct lack of knowledge on the fate of the artist. How do I go about quoting the movie when the text is not in writing, but in viaual/audio medium? NiklasBr (talk) 23:57, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Would this be acceptable, I don't know how to cite the movie directly):

However, the film focuses on his mysterious reputation in South Africa, and the attempts of music historians there to track him down in the mid-1990s. South Africans, and especially the main protagonists, were unaware of his Australian success due to the harsh censorship enacted by the apartheid regime^[1] coupled with international sanctions made any communication with the outside world on the subject of banned artists virtually impossible.^[2]

Another note on the omission paragraph. The last sentence either isn't properly sourced or isn't isn't properly formatted. I didn't find your quote on the linked article. So, it's either misappropriated or the quotation marks need to be altered. Jocmckin (talk) 18:12, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that is a quote from anywhere (Googling it turns up this page and a wikipedia crawler). I am also unsure whether that even fits into the Omissions section altogether. As far as I am concerned that sentence seems both un-sourced and off topic. NiklasBr (talk) 23:05, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Who is the anonymous person who calls himself "sociologist" who keeps removing references to the apartheid regime? Please provide sources for your edits and reasons why you consider the existing sources wrong. 176.10.249.243 (talk) 10:49, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Davis, Sue. "Music that impacted anti-apartheid struggle". Workers World. Retrieved 10 June 2013.
^ Rohter, Larry. "A Real-Life Fairy Tale, Long in the Making and Set to Old Tunes". New York Times. Retrieved 10 June 2013.

New Category of Wiki Articles[edit]

This documentary refers to someone who was famous in another country but was unknown in his home country. I have heard of this phenomenon in other performers. One example I can think of Is Aris San (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aris_San) A greek singer who became a legend in Israel but was unknown in Greece. Can someone create a category of pages of musicians or artists who are unknown at home but famous abroad? JacobScheer (talk) 00:38, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Davis, Sue. "Music that impacted anti-apartheid struggle". Workers World. Retrieved 10 June 2013.

[2] Rohter, Larry. "A Real-Life Fairy Tale, Long in the Making and Set to Old Tunes". New York Times. Retrieved 10 June 2013.

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