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How about the hexcode for this colour and a plain colour square? --Oldak Quill 14:15, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

f4d05b
I'm sure this is doable but I don't think it's a good idea. a) Your guess is as good as mine for the hex code. b) Print colors are not the same as screen colors--think color profiles. c) How useful would it really be? Regards, Josh Lee 15:22, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)
Hex colours would be great way to get the true idea on the specific colour (at least we would have a range). Nichalp 18:30, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)
Be Bold. --Josh Lee 19:22, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)
#ffcc00
I like the idea of having a swatch of the color, but only if we're sure it's the right one. The box above seems too dim to me. A post on a message board, while hardly authoratative, said it's #ffcc00, which looks closer to me. Niteowlneils 00:41, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I belong to a very active national bulletin board of school bus folks. I will pose the question there, and see if we get some leads. I do know that actual paint used is loaded with pigment, and makes a bus interior just as hot as if painted black. Thats why you see some yellow school buses with white roofs, a trend which began in southern states with special ed kids whose bodies can't take the resulting heat. Vaoverland 01:09, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

So far, no answers on Hex code in the School Bus Fleet Forum. I found a website which said "The RGB hex code used to produce this colour is #FFD800." The same site said that were derived from experimentation and asked to be notified if anyone could advise. Here is that link: [1] I'll keep researching. Vaoverland 09:50, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

Another webpage which has one that looks like it has #FFB300, 255, 179, 0. That link is [2] Second row down, all the way right.

My gut is the two chips higher on this page are lacking in the orange aspect, if that makes any sense. Of the two, the lower one is closer. Vaoverland 09:57, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

My inquiry on the School Bus Fleet Forum shows 65 reads, and no replies. I am beginning to suspect that no one has an official cross-reference with National School Bus Chrome to hex codes. Reviewing what we have on this page (including the links), I feel pretty strongly that #FFB300, 255, 179, 0. was the closest to what the buses look line when freshly painted. Because of the large amount of pigment, as the paint cures, it tends to fade some, varying with type of paint and quality of application. Lacking better data, I'd go with the #FFB300, 255, 179, 0 and note the comments about lack of and need for the exact hex code. Hope that helps. Vaoverland 17:52, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

UPDATE: After 105 reads, I have 1 reply from the SBF forum. That person says the Hex code is #FFCC00. Vaoverland 13:44, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, that code is right. -- BRIAN0918  14:08, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I think you may want to know that computer systems are generally not calibrated to reproduce a consistent color on different monitors. Even with the same external monitor, each computer generates a slightly different analog signal for the same hex value. The default gamma values for Windows and MacOS computers are also different. It is pointless to reproduce a color on screen.

To most professional printers (technician), the computer monitor is nothing but a tool that displays the CMYK values of images so he/she can adjust the image for the CMYK printer (printing machine). However, even if you print the yellow using CMYK inks on a piece of coated paper, the paper will not look the same as the real bus if you paste it on the bus surface (I guess the CMYK version will be muchh less saturate). Even if you use the real bus paint to paint the paper, it will still be a little different from the real thing (surface textures: paper and metal).

On a computer monitor, at best, you may create a color that mimics that particular yellow well on a sRGB monitor. If you know abything about gamuts, you will know it is -- Toytoy 11:27, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)

I have made some corrections regarding Tangerine on the article page.

  1. I have changed the name of Tangerine in the info box to Tangerine Yellow because there already is an article on the color Tangerine, and the color is much redder (i.e. more orange).
  2. I created a redirect link for Tangerine yellow to point to this article.
  3. There is a clarification in the article text about how Tangerine is typically more orange. (See the article on "Tangerine (color)" for the swatch.)
  4. The HSV values for Tangerine Yellow are incorrect. The article has (33°, 100%, 50%). My spreadsheet converter for HSV shows them as 48, 100, 100 and produces exactly 255,204,0 on the back conversion.
  5. No CMYK values are included; I am including them from a conversion site.

Paul Robinson (Rfc1394) 12:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Is the HSV value given for 'School Bus Yellow' right? I don't think it's equivalent to the RGB value... 199.46.199.237 21:11, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: Computer monitor display -- This section is self-contradictory and needs a complete rewriting and cleanup. Is FFCC00 a collision with Tangerine Yellow, or was Tangerine Yellow specifically designed to mimic School Bus Yellow (the article says both)? Is a discussion of actual fruit colors necessary? Input from an "expert" might be necessary here. 166.20.224.13 (talk) 14:44, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I tried, to the best of my ability right now, to clean up the last section, while explaining the impossibility of getting an accurate color representation. But for me it feels WAY too verbose (and you didn't even see the previous versions I came up with before settling for that... They were at least twice as big.) So, if someone can, please help. Davi Medrade (talk) 03:24, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

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