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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergios_und_Bakchos Stephanie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephanie Do (talk • contribs) 19:54, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Saints Sergius and Bacchus are apparently different from this St. Sarkis. --Macrakis (talk) 20:15, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

This article has problems:

It needs better sources. Various individual churches' web sites are not reliable sources.
There were many external links, all dead, so I removed them.
It is written as though the stories of St. Sarkis are historical truths, not hagiography.

I was unable to find any material in Google Books and Google Scholar about this Saint Sarkis (as opposed to the Sarkis of Sarkis and Bakhos). Surely there is some standard source for Armenian church hagiographies? I found the article Nersessian, Eastern Christian Hagiographical Traditions: Oriental Orthodox: Armenian Hagiography doi:10.1002/9780470690208.ch23, which doesn't discuss individual saints, but does say: "Although the majority of the Acts in the Armenian Synaxary are also found in the Latin and the Greek, the versions differ considerably." This makes me wonder whether Saint Sarkis the Warrior is just a variant version of Saint Sergius of Sergius and Bacchus. Does someone have access to the Armenian Synaxary? --Macrakis (talk) 20:15, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Macrakis: I came here with the same concerns. According to S. Peter Cowe, "Armenian Hagiography", in The Ashgate Research Companion to Byzantine Hagiography, Vol. 1, 312–13, this is a different saint from the companion of Bacchus. I can only see from Google snippets, but Monuments arméniens du Vaspurakan also clarifies that "il existe deux sts nommés Serge", the Roman soldier and companion of Bacchus and this guy, the general killed with his son in Persia.
This page does need a better title. Perhaps Sergius the General (seems more common than warrior)? Or Sergios and Martiros, since he always appears with his son? Srnec (talk) 15:25, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Srnec: Nice finds! You should add the info they have to the article. --Macrakis (talk) 19:04, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]