Talk:Sandstorm Enterprises
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Untitled[edit]
I'll improve information on the page.
Sandstorm is notable because it had the first multi-line war dialer, holds the patent on multi-line war dialing. Wikipedia has an article about war dialing, and this is a cross link.
Let's not delete this page[edit]
I think that we've done a fair job improving the content of this page so that it now meets Wikipedia standards. 140.247.62.201 15:03, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Removed Notability and Unrerenced tags[edit]
I removed the Notability and Unreferenced tags because:
- Sandstorm is notable with all of those patents.
- There are references at the end of the article.
Simsong 06:44, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Worst AfD ever[edit]
"I found reviews of their products on BusinessWire" --- funny, that. BusinessWire is a venue for press releases.
The notability of company founders does not confer notability on the company itself; a company is notable when writers in reliable sources verify an assertion of notability.
Patents do not imply notability. Jeepers. Anybody can get a patent (including, for the record, me); they are a simple function of money and time. A patent can itself be notable, and a company commercializing a notable patent can therefore itself be notable (if that commercialization is remarked about in reliable sources), but there are some stupid and terrible patents out there, along with a raft of utterly irrelevant ones.
Coupled with the WP:COI issues with this page, I think we should revisit AfD. Takers?
--- tqbf 20:19, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- I certainly object to the notion of sourcing an article with an op-ed written by the founder of the company. Am I off-base there? --- tqbf 20:44, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
AfD will lose :([edit]
This company got written in up 1998 in Wired: here's the article. If anyone is paying attention to the AfD, it'll get a "keep" for this; it's sad, because there's not much notable here.
The cut-down article is at least less puff-y than it was prior.
WP's vulnerability to PR --- even badly orchestrated PR --- from tech companies is a real problem. A topic for a different talk page.
--- tqbf 20:48, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
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