Talk:Samtskhe-Saatabago

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Recent move: Samtskhe-Atabagate?[edit]

@Georgiano:, what did you actually do? --Kober^Talk 19:01, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Samtskhe-Atabagate is aglicized name of Samtskhe-Saatabago, which is Georgian/original name of principality. root of Saatabago is title "Atabeg", it equals to "Prince". Sa- is Georgian prefix which is not natural for English. example: Principality of Mingrelia is anglicized version of Samegrelos samtavro. "Atabagate" term is accepted by several sources. 1Georgiano (talk) 19:36, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, but (1) "Samtskhe-Atabagate" is unknown in English and (2) the spelling "atabagate" is less common than "atabegate". Moreover, Samtskhe-Saatabago is very common in English sources, whatever it's meaning. Srnec (talk) 01:01, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Exactly. Samtskhe-Saatabago has become a proper name of the entity and there is no need to anglicize it. By the same logic, Samachablo should become Machabelate. Since it is impossible to move the page back to its former title, I think the admin should get involved to restore the saatabago version and Georgiano should initiate a poll to get the consensus for move. --Kober^Talk 16:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 2 May 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved (non-admin closure) ~SS49~ {talk} 05:09, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Samtskhe atabegate → Samtskhe-Saatabago – common name and used in scholarship. Emperor of Emperors (talk) 18:34, 2 May 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. b uidhe 22:06, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Question @Emperor of Emperors: Can you demonstrate as to how "Samtskhe-Saatabago" is the common name? Jerm (talk) 20:16, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. A search for variant spellings through Google Books yields only a couple of hits for "Samtskhe atabegate" / "atabegate of Samc'xe" / "atabegate of Samtskhe", 0 for "Samtskhe atabegate"/"Samc'xe atabegate"/"Samtzkhe atabagate"/"atabagate of Samtzkhe" vs hundreds for "Samtskhe-Saatabago" / "Samc'xe-Saatabago" / "Samc'xe-Saat'abago" / "Samtzkhe-Saatabago".--Kober^Talk 07:49, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Kober has provided some strong supporting sources. Kaiser matias (talk) 16:07, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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