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How the fraud works through Law Enforcement agencies[edit]

PIN1, PIN2 and PUK codes are available at the backend, sometimes even in frontend customer care section of company outlets. A dummy card is used to activate with the codes and use the account on another mobile phone. That's all.
It becomes easier to manipulate and hijack identity when there are Dual SIM slots in the phone and the person switches off the phone. Keeping phone always switched "on" has the disadvantage of allowing eavesdropping as well as the possibility of hostile programs being downloaded, and so a balance has to be made.

Details missing[edit]

Why Sim PIN and PUKs are not required for the switch? Zezen (talk) 21:19, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AT&T etc. employees do it themselves: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/d3n3am/att-and-verizon-employees-charged-sim-swapping-criminal-ring

-> Let us update it.

Zezen (talk) 18:23, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Section of mitigations?[edit]

I know that there are alleged defenses against SIM swapping, like using VOIP numbers (e.g. Google Voice) or avoiding SMS 2FA whenever possible. I don't think there's any data to support those defenses, but I could be wrong. Should there be a section on this? RentedUniverse (talk) 14:18, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If any mitigations are discussed in Reliable Sources WP:RS than it would be good to include statements about such in this article. Please also see: WP:OR. Thanks!---Avatar317 ^(talk) 22:16, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 11 May 2024[edit]

It has been proposed in this section that SIM swap scam be renamed and moved somewhere else, with the name being decided below.

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SIM swap scam → SIM swap OR SIM swapping – WP:COMMONNAME. This is generally just referred to as "SIM swap" (or the action of performing it, "SIM swapping"), so having "scam" in the title is not exceptionally necessary and can just be introduced in the lead section. B3251 (talk) 18:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: I have swapped the SIM in my phone many times. It is a common thing to do that does not involve fraud or scamming. The current article title makes it clear that the ordinary action of swapping SIMs is not what the article is about. The article is about a scam, and the current article title makes that clear. The proposed article title does not. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 03:57, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Important to note that "SIM swap" redirects to the current article, meaning that any mention of "swapping SIMs" on Wikipedia currently refers to SIM swapping. That being said, I hadn't thought about that when making the request, but I'd still like to propose moving the article title to "SIM swapping" due to being much more commonly used to refer to this practice rather than "SIM swap scam". As a matter of fact, "SIM swapping" online seems to completely refer to the illicit practice. I'll modify my request. Thanks, B3251 (talk) 04:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]