Talk:SFStory

The notability of SFStory is in the earliness of its establishment (it is the first 'shared universe' on the internet, as far as I or anyone I've encountered has been able to determine, created in the prehistoric year of 1987), its longevity (it has had readers and writers for over twenty years), its alumni (noted blogger Eric Burns, though I'll admit that including myself and others on this list is a stretch), and its status as Superguy's precursor. Superguy's notability is not in question -- and the same reasons it is not in question also apply to SfStory.

Regarding published references, this admittedly can use some improvement. I made an effort to include published content such as a Comixpedia article by Eric Burns and a TeleRead article by Chris Meadows, but other references are, by and large, blog entries written by former authors reminiscing about writing for Sfstory. I did not solicit these entries, but cited them as I found them, as it establishes that Sfstory did in fact exist as far back as I have recorded, and that its function is as I have recorded. As further reliable third-party references appear, I fully intend to include them with this article, and expand and revise it as necessary.

I have amended the alumni section to remove myself, Troy Cheek, and Dave Menendez from the listing, to avoid the appearance of self-promotion, and because Troy and Dave, good writers though they are, do not meet 'notability' standards any more than I do. Eric Burns, who very justifiably has his own Wikipedia page, will stay. I have also added a reference to the Internet Explorer's Kit by Adam Engst and Bill Dickson, a 1994 publication that made extensive references to Superguy and SFStory in discussing what then passed for life on the Internet. I will furthermore seek out better citations and references; I ask for your forbearance in the meantime.

-- Gary W. Olson, SFSTory archives maintainer and author (12/1/2009)

Regarding the tags given this entry in February 2011:

1) "It needs sources or references that appear in third-party publications."

Virtually every statement in the entry has been backed up with references (save the statement indicating current activity, which is established in the list's web archives). What seems unsourced here?

2) "It may be written from a fan's point of view, rather than a neutral point of view."

Where is the fannish content? The content of the entry makes no reference to how 'good' the material posted to Sfstory is or is not. It consists of statements on what it is, writers involved and their subsequent notable activities, and its notability credentials (its longevity and its place in very early internet culture).

3) "It may contain original research or unverifiable claims."

Like what?

4) "Very few or no other articles link to it. Please help introduce links to this page from other articles related to it."

A fair concern. I will look into this and see what might be done.

I do wish to improve this article to meet Wikipedia standards; I request that whomever tagged these pages make their objections more clear.

-- Gary W. Olson, SfStory archives maintainer and author (4/28/2011)

Gwox (talk) 15:05, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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