Talk:Robert Williams (geometer)

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Bio[edit]

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Robert Edward Williams - (Class of 1960) - mathematician, architect, and designer. He is known for books on geometry for scientists and designers (The Geometry of Natural Structure), the development of theoretical principles of Catenatic Geometry (The Kiss Catenatic: The Introduction of Catenatic Geometry and its Environs), and the invention of the Ars-Vivant Wild-life Protector System for repopulating the Western Mojave Desert in California with desert tortoises.

ISBN 978-0-9823465-1-8[edit]

This isbn is not found in Google books. See this. Also see this edit (I've re-added the other book mentioned there, as I found its isbn in Google books). Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:13, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nevertheless, it is a valid ISBN according to the Library of Congress: http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&CNT=25+records+per+page&CMD=isbn+9780982346518. On the other hand, there is no showing that the book is notable, the publisher is not reliable, and the book and its writer appear to be WP:FRINGE. —Finell 05:28, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have his 1979 book The Geometrical Foundation of Natural Structure, very good geometric source book, but don't know about the new stuff. Tom Ruen (talk) 06:19, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Change to article about book[edit]

At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Williams (geometer), there were strong arguments against keeping this as a biographical article. There was no notability established, other than arguably about the book The Geometrical Foundation of Natural Structure: A Source Book of Design. Therefore, this article needs to be rewritten to be about the book, rather than the person. — Sebastian 07:15, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm struggling to see that as the consensus from the AFD. There's barely anything in this article about that book.--Michig (talk) 07:59, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's barely anything in Google news, Google scholar, and Google books about that book. How are we supposed to make an article about it? —David Eppstein (talk) 17:01, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, a very strange close, which does not seem to me to reflect the AfD's consensus. Nsk92 (talk) 14:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You have good points. I just replied to them at User talk:SebastianHelm#Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Williams (geometer). I usually prefer for such discussions to take place on the article talk page, but since this page may be deleted anyway, let's keep it on my talk page for now. — Sebastian 18:03, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article is now in excellent state. It should go back into main space. Xxanthippe (talk) 06:08, 16 July 2010 (UTC). Done. Xxanthippe (talk) 06:16, 18 August 2010 (UTC).[reply]