Talk:Rip Kirby

Personal blogs not acceptable as reference source

This is hard for me to do, but in the interest of Wikipedia's credibility, it's necessary. I've had to remove a very long quote attributed to Leonard Starr, since its source was the personal blog of someone named Leif Peng who is not an established, reliable-source news organization or similar.

The Wikipedia policy at "Self-published sources" is very clear on this:

"Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published, then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason self-published media, whether books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, Internet forum postings, tweets etc., are largely not acceptable."

Expanding on the latter point, the footnote reads:

"'Blogs' in this context refers to personal and group blogs. Some newspapers host interactive columns that they call blogs, and these may be acceptable as sources so long as the writers are professionals and the blog is subject to the newspaper's full editorial control."

Leif Peng's blog does not, I'm afraid, fall under that latter category. As credible as the blog may seem, Wikipedia, for good reason cannot allow some amateur blog postings to be used as reference but not others. Where is the line drawn? Wikipedia clearly draws it at the above-linked policy, WP:SPS.

This is a serious policy matter, and if the editor wants to revert the deletion in contradiction of policy, that involves discussion here at the very least. With respect to my fellow editor, -- Tenebrae (talk) 01:47, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: Neal Adams

Neal Adams does not himself mention doing work on Rip Kirby, either in Adams' own website's biography, nor in his interviews in The Neal Adams Treasury, nor in his lengthy, multi-part interview here.

The only mention I can find is at a sales site for the retailer Ken Pierce Books, here, from which an uncited sentence in this Wikipedia Rip Kirby article was lifted. Commercial sales sites are disallowed as Wikipedia references, and since Adams himself does not mentions Rip Kirby, and the only source is a retailer who wants to sell Rip Kirby books and does not cite his own source for this information, then this claim does not reach the threshold of encyclopedic veracity. Accordingly, I have removed the Adams claim. -- Tenebrae (talk) 02:03, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Story titles

In the new series of books from IDW many story titles are quite different from the list in the article.

Where are the titles in the list in the article from?

Following are the IDW titles, taken from the books, but some of them can be checked on http://www.comics.org/issue/868402/ Benadikt (talk) 20:02, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

The Rip Kirby comic strip stories
№	IDW №	Title	Writer(s)	Artist(s)	Dates	№ of strips	Strip №
1	1.1	The Chip Faraday Murder	WG&AR	AR	1946-03-04 – 1946-04-22	43	1-43
2	1.2	The Hicks Formula		AR	1946-04-23 – 1946-06-26	56	44-99
3	1.3	Enter: The Mangler		AR	1946-06-27 – 1946-11-02	111	100-210
4	1.4	Fatal Forgeries		AR	1946-11-04 – 1947-01-20	67	211-277
5	1.5	Past Imperfect		AR	1947-01-21 – 1947-05-24	107	278-384
6	1.6	The Doll's House		AR	1947-05-26 – 1947-10-11	120	385-504
7	1.7	Bleak Prospects		AR	1947-10-13 – 1948-06-12	210	505-714
8	1.8	Terror on the Thames		AR	1948-06-14 – 1948-12-04	150	715-864
9	2.1	The Bandar Rubies		AR	1948-12-06 – 1949-01-08	30	865-894
10	2.2	Like Flies to Honey		AR	1949-01-10 – 1949-05-21	114	895-1008
11	2.3	Pagan's Cheerful Summer		AR	1949-05-23 – 1949-09-03	90	1009-1098
12	2.4	My Little Runaway		AR	1949-09-05 – 1949-12-03	78	1099-1176
13	2.5	Peril in the Snow		AR	1949-12-05 – 1950-03-25	96	1177-1272
14	2.6	The Play's the Thing		AR	1950-03-27 – 1950-06-10	66	1273-1338
15	2.7	Return of the Mangler		AR	1950-06-12 – 1950-09-23	90	1339-1428
16	2.8	The Caged Songbird		AR	1950-09-25 – 1950-12-23	78	1429-1506
17	2.9	The Little Man Who Wasn't		AR	1950-12-25 – 1951-04-28	108	1507-1614
18	2.10	I'm OK - You're Great		AR	1951-04-30 – 1951-09-22	126	1615-1740
19	3.1	The Tigress of El Kazar		AR	1951-09-24 – 1952-01-26	108	1741-1848
20	3.2	The Lambert Affair		AR	1952-01-28 – 1952-05-24	102	1849-1950
21	3.3	Pagan's Plight		AR	1952-05-26 – 1952-09-27	108	1951-2058
22	3.4	The Cold Deck Switch		AR	1952-09-29 – 1953-01-31	108	2059-2166
23	3.5	Danger in Key Diablo		AR	1953-02-02 – 1953-05-09	84	2167-2250
24	3.6	Death on Four Wheels		AR	1953-05-11 – 1953-09-05	102	2251-2352
25	3.7	Whom the Gods Destroy		AR	1953-09-07 – 1953-11-21	66	2353-2418
26	3.8	The Affairs of Crusher Twickham		AR	1953-11-23 – 1954-04-17	126	2419-2544
27	4.1	Stark Night of the Soul		AR	1954-04-19 – 1954-07-10	72	2545-2616
28	4.2	Two Men and a Baby		AR	1954-07-12 – 1954-12-25	144	2617-2760
29	4.3	The Eyes of Kismet Kildare		AR	1954-12-27 – 1955-04-09	90	2761-2850
30	4.4	Carno's Carnivores		AR	1955-04-11 – 1955-07-09	78	2851-2928
31	4.5	Hep to the Jive		AR	1955-07-11 – 1955-09-24	66	2929-2994
32	4.6	The Laugh's on Giggles		AR	1955-09-26 – 1955-11-26	54	2995-3048
33	4.7	Brain vs. Brawn		AR	1955-11-28 – 1956-02-18	72	3049-3120
34	4.8	Double in Diamonds		AR	1956-02-20 – 1956-05-19	78	3121-3198
35	4.9	Zero Tolerance		AR	1956-05-21 – 1956-07-28	60	3199-3258
36	4.10	Cat Amongst the Pigeons	FD	AR JP	1956-07-30 – 1956-09-29 1956-10-01 – 1956-10-20	54 18	3259-3312 3313-3330

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Creator?

The two sentences in the lead seem to contradict one other, one saying that Alex Raymond was the creator and the other Alex Prentice. Perhaps one or both should say "co-creator"? JH (talk page) 09:01, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

That was using creator in two different ways, but the wording has been amended. -- Beardo (talk) 16:50, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Writers and artists

There is a section with writers and artists - many of whom are not mentioned elsewhere, and who are unsourced.

They are all given initials. Most of the initials are not used anywhere else that I can see. -- Beardo (talk) 16:52, 12 June 2021 (UTC)