Talk:Richard Parker (mutineer)

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I changed hung to hanged in the spirit of proper grammar I changed hung to hanged in the spirit of proper grammar—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.108.74.64 (talk) 01:44, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

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Requested move 19 April 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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Richard Parker (sailor) → Richard Parker (1767–1797) – While the shipwreck victim doesn't have a separate article probably due to an overlap with the case in general I think most people will expect this qualified title to refer to the shipwreck. When I Google Richard Parker sailor all the results are for the shipwreck apart from this article (the 2nd result) and a Wikipedia mirror (the 2nd to last result) on the 1st page of results. When I landed on the DAB I clicked on this link expecting the shipwreck. R v Dudley and Stephens gets 8,656 views compared to only 3,000[[1]] for this one. Both are English so disambiguate by birth and death. This title should redirect back to Richard Parker#Other people. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:16, 19 April 2021 (UTC)—Relisting. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:37, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Richard Parker (sailor) → Richard Parker (1767–1797) (parenthetical qualifiers consisting of vital dates should only be appended when no other possible disambiguation is available), but would support other qualifiers, perhaps to the effect of Richard Parker (executed sailor) or Richard Parker (sailor on HMS Sandwich). —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 21:29, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose The other Parker is noteworthy in his own right. Also, WP:PDAB applies here, they are both sailors, and one should not be primary ahead of the other. Therefore:

Richard Parker (sailor) → Richard Parker (sailor, born 1767)

Richard Parker (sailor, born 1867) as a redirect to R v Dudley and Stephens.

162 etc. (talk) 21:38, 19 April 2021 (UTC) Supporting suggestion below. 162 etc. (talk) 16:24, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

• Do something to avoid the current WP:INCOMPLETEDAB situation. — BarrelProof (talk) 23:42, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
• Move to Richard Parker (mutineer). Clarityfiend (talk) 00:57, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Good for me. — BarrelProof (talk) 13:57, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Yeah that works. 162 etc. (talk) 16:55, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support Richard Parker (mutineer). -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:49, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
• Comment. I would likewise support Richard Parker (mutineer) per Clarityfiend, Necrothesp, BarrelProof and 162 etc. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:37, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose moving to Richard Parker (1767-1797) and move instead to Richard Parker (mutineer).🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 20:39, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Follow-up comment: There is also a character in the 1838 Edgar Allen Poe novel The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket who is a mutineer named Richard Parker, so the chosen title still has some degree of incomplete disambiguation. Perhaps no one in the above RM discussion was aware of that. (It is possible that Poe based his character on this historical person, but I have not found any reliable source that asserts that.) —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:17, 22 June 2023 (UTC)