Talk:Remote job entry

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This doesn't tell me much at all. Mainframe computers from what era? Running what operating system? Is this protocol still used anywhere? 74.78.116.93 (talk) 00:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Remote job entry facilities were available in operating systems from the 1960's to the present. The specific term RJE originally referred to the RJE component of OS/360. The protocol that the RJE component of OS/360 used to communicate with programmable work stations was not used by any subsequent software that I am aware of. The protocol used for RJE by the IBM 2770, 2780 and 3780 is still supported by JES2 and JES3 in z/OS and by RSCS in z/VM. The multi-leaving protocol introduced by HASP II is supported by JES2, JES3 and RSCS. I'm not sure about z/VSE.

I suspect that Bull and Unisys still support some form of RJE, but have no idea of the protocols. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 16:12, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved per request. Favonian (talk) 19:21, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Remote Job Entry → Remote job entry –

The article is framed as generic. The specific, which probably does deserve to retain the caps, is given as an example in the first section: "Remote Job Entry (RJE) is also the name of an OS/360 component[1] that provided RJE services."

Per WP:MOSCAPS ("Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization") and WP:TITLE, this is a generic, common term, not a propriety or commercial term, so the article title should be downcased. In addition, WP:MOSCAPS says that a compound item should not be upper-cased just because it is abbreviated with caps. Lowercase will match the formatting of related article titles. Tony (talk) 04:42, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support as a no-brainer per WP:MOSCAPS. Would be an easy non-admin move (as would many, many others) if the damned bot hadn't added the template.--ukexpat (talk) 19:57, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I tried, but it wouldn't let me. Tony (talk) 11:00, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - It requires an admin to do the move because of the subsequent edit by the bot.--ukexpat (talk) 14:02, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Timeline?[edit]

Does anybody have dates for when the various RJE nd NJE applications supported each of the protocols? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 20:58, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

HASP Multi-leaving is not full duplex over BSC[edit]

@Peter Flass: The HASP Multi-leaving protocol^[1] over BSC^[2] retains the half duplex character of BSC. This remains true for NJE^[3] over BSC.

References

^ "MULTI-LEAVING in BSC/RJE" (PDF). OS/VS2 HASP II Version 4 Logic Program Number 370H-TX-001 VS2 SVS Release 1.7 (PDF) (First ed.). IBM. March 1973. p. 161. GY27-7255-0. {{cite book}}: |work= ignored (help)
^ General Information - Binary Synchronous Communications (PDF) (First ed.). IBM. A27-3004-0. {{cite book}}: |work= ignored (help)
^ "Providing BSC and CTC Protocols for Stream Control" (PDF). Network Job Entry (NJE) Formats and Protocols (PDF). IBM. September 30, 2021. p. 161. SA32-0988-50. {{cite book}}: |work= ignored (help)

[1] "MULTI-LEAVING in BSC/RJE" (PDF). OS/VS2 HASP II Version 4 Logic Program Number 370H-TX-001 VS2 SVS Release 1.7 (PDF) (First ed.). IBM. March 1973. p. 161. GY27-7255-0. {{cite book}}: |work= ignored (help)

[2] General Information - Binary Synchronous Communications (PDF) (First ed.). IBM. A27-3004-0. {{cite book}}: |work= ignored (help)

[3] "Providing BSC and CTC Protocols for Stream Control" (PDF). Network Job Entry (NJE) Formats and Protocols (PDF). IBM. September 30, 2021. p. 161. SA32-0988-50. {{cite book}}: |work= ignored (help)

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