Talk:Rachel Foster Avery

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Related?[edit]

Any relation to Stephen Foster?

Yes, he is her second cousin once-removed; their common ancestor is an Alexander Foster (1710-1767), who is his great-grandfather and her great-great-grandfather. Probably not worth mentioning on the page unless there is evidence they knew each other. Alafarge (talk) 18:37, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Copied and pasted text[edit]

I reverted you at Rachel Foster Avery because your expansion quoted directly from Cooper without attribution. Even though the text is in the public domain, we should summarize it for the reader, attribute quotes, and minimize those quotes. Binksternet (talk) 20:42, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
You are in error here, Binksternet, and your edit summary ("...too many copyright violation problems...") is both unjustified and disconcerting.
My 1st edit added a photo of the subject into her infobox and moved the existing photo (of her with Stanton) into the body of the article.

My 2nd and 3rd edits added Public Domain material, with appropriate attribution, into the article. I didn't just paste a block of info and walk away. The material was worked into the existing article.

My 4th and 5th edits improved the categories.

Please reconsider your actions. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:04, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Do you think "imbibe" is the right verb to use here regarding the things that influenced Rachel's mother? Binksternet (talk) 21:26, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
I think what matters here is that if you think a particular word should be changed, you should change it rather than reverting 5 edits made by a seasoned editor because of an archaic 19th-c word or phrase or sentence. If you'll revert your edit, I'll work some more on the article. Does this seem reasonable? Also, kindly please explain what you mean by "quoted directly from Cooper without attribution" and "...too many copyright violation problems..." as I don't understand your point of view. Thank you, Binksternet. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:42, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
It's not just one word, it's the full copy and paste from Cooper, which I strongly disagree with. We should summarize the ideas presented in that book, using encyclopedic language rather than flowery 19th century prose.

The image in your new changes is quilted with distortion artifacts. The old one was clearer. Binksternet (talk) 21:59, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
I'm feeling very uncomfortable with how you're addressing the good faith edits I made to this article with your invalid edit summary ("...too many copyright violation problems..."). And when I called you out on it, instead of admitting you are wrong, you criticize the image and the content I added (and what about the category?). Thank goodness I'm a seasoned editor and I won't walk away from editing after this experience. Have a nice day, Binksternet. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:24, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
I'm sorry I made you feel uncomfortable. I did not address my "copyright violation" edit summary when you raised it as an issue because I was short on time, with my attention divided between Wikipedia and work, and work taking by far the greater portion. I wrote that edit summary after seeing the extensive copying of the Cooper book but before I noticed that Cooper was in the public domain. I would have said the the same things to you here had I left the edit summary blank. I don't think the right way to expand the article is to fill it with airy prose taken from a 19-century book. My view is that Wikipedia's article about this laudable fighter for women's rights should be straightforward and concise. Binksternet (talk) 05:06, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, Binksternet, for your subsequent edit. I appreciate it. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:55, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Moving discussion from my talkpage to article talkpage so that other editors who have watchlisted the article are aware of this content discussion and can choose to comment if they wish. cc: Binksternet. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:19, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Better picture?[edit]

The picture in the infobox looks a bit like a mug shot. A while back, I uploaded this picture of Avery from The Life and Work of Susan B. Anthony which looks a little better in my opinion. Any thoughts on swapping images? (Probably I should crop the writing.) Leschnei (talk) 13:18, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the cropped version. Leschnei (talk) 13:21, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I used the one with the signature. Binksternet (talk) 17:19, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]