Talk:Pianos Become the Teeth

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Discography section improvement[edit]

In response to this comment left by SilentDan297 (talk · contribs), I understand and appreciate your interest in trying to improve this article. However, I feel as if you're attempting to fix something that's not broken. WP:DISCOGSTYLE is meant for separate discography articles, and even then, what's written there is only an old draft as that project kind of fizzled out. Other wiki policies and guidelines such as Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists of works and Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians/Article guidelines recommend just a simple list with an album title and year. What's already present on the article is neat and clean and accurate. We could adopt the table-style as seen on WP:DISCOGSTYLE, but how would that improve the article and improve the experience for the reader? Fezmar9 (talk) 01:43, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It features information such as the release date, label and format the product is released on, apologies if you disagree it's not something I'm going to force onto the article without consensus, it's just the format I have been editing it to, if you believe the simple list is good enough then I won't argue, I just believe with the table it would show more information for readers, I also believe that it would merit its own article if it is expanded this way, especially if the band has released singles, are you aware if they have? Anyway's apologies if you feel I'm forcing these suggestions through, by no means am I trying to do such a thing. SilentDan (talk) 01:53, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
To answer your question about singles, I'm pretty familiar with Pianos Become the Teeth, but to my knowledge they have not released any singles. Not unless you want to consider some of their split releases as "split singles," which some Wikipedia editors do — I personally like to see splits listed under their own section. I really don't believe Pianos Become the Teeth's discography section should be expanded, largely because their albums were primarily released on small indie labels. Almost all of these albums were released though labels that don't have Wikipedia pages, so there would be nothing for the reader to click on for more information. Also, release dates from smaller labels are very poorly documented, so we would either not be able to find a specific date beyond a year OR we would find multiple possible release dates, and then would have to decide which one is the most accurate. For example, I can find dates ranging from May 2008 to October 2008 for the band's Saltwater EP. Hell, this webstore even thinks it was released in 2010 and allmusic has a guess in 2009. So we likely couldn't add a specific release date for most of these releases either. Nor did any of their releases chart. I think the simple list format works best for this article. And this is coming from someone who has been editing for 7+ years and someone whose first major contributions were establishing most punk/metal discographies to where they are today — sift through the history back to 2008/2009 on a discography article and there's a strong possibility you'll find edits from me completely revamping the page, or even creating it. Fezmar9 (talk) 02:31, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This does appear to be very confusing, I'm not familiar to the band at all and the way you describe their discography is somewhat odd, so perhaps we should leave it for now, something to look at when the rest of the article is of a higher standard then. SilentDan (talk) 11:21, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like a plan to me. Fezmar9 (talk) 14:07, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In almost all of the band articles I've created where the majority of their discography doesn't meet the notability guidelines, I usually like to add external links to Discogs and Rate Your Music — two fairly reliable Wiki-style discography websites. This way the reader still has some access to this information. I'll go ahead and add those now. Fezmar9 (talk) 17:59, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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