Talk:Peter Dazeley

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Pull the other one.[edit]

We read:

He has pioneered many photographic techniques that have become the norm in commercial imaging, including the use of limited depth of field, the out of focus anamorphic figures and he was the first photographer to use x-ray for artistic purposes.

Some photographer still alive now pioneered these? Is this claim some kind of a joke? -- Hoary (talk) 23:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dazeley is an innovator which is why I collect his works- Have several- Love the XRAY solarized and the Pregnant nudes. It hard to keep fresh ideas but his are unique! .... added in this edit by User:BigMyke1 (contributions)
Just off the top of my head, shallow depth of field was used by Shinzō Fukuhara and Rosō Fukuhara, and anamorphic figures were used by Teikō Shiotani, all before World War II. (I can supply references for these claims if you wish.) I've no reason to think that those three photographers were the first to do either of these. I have a book at home that deals briefly with X-ray photography; shall I look that up too?
If Dazeley is an innovator, please describe the innovation more clearly. Thank you. -- Hoary (talk) 12:05, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am a great fan and don't think Dazeley's work is a joke, his out of focus- not shallow depth of field work for the Terrence Higgins Trust was and is innovative. His use of x-ray photography refers to use in commercial photography- not the first to do x-ray photography.Tagb07 (talk) 11:48, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's great that you are a fan, but your personal opinion is not really relevant for an encyclopedia. Wikipedia is not a forum (WP:NOTAFORUM) and needs WP:reliable sources, especially when making claims about innovation. Rror (talk) 12:25, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The claim, not Dazeley's work, seemed a joke. Nine months have passed since my question, and this article's autobiographer still hasn't produced any evidence for the claim that he was the first to use X-ray photography for such-and-such purposes (where "such-and-such" had been "commercial" until changed to "artistic" by an IP who also removed the "COI" template). -- Hoary (talk) 12:22, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Books[edit]

Dazeley is now said to have produced a pile more books. The last-listed of these is:

  • Wicked World by Benjamin Zephaniah, Puffin London, 2003. ISBN 0141306831

Here's this book at Copac. Copac says "illustrated by Sarah Symonds". What has Dazeley got to do with it? -- Hoary (talk) 16:30, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dazeley did indeed shoot the portrait featured on the cover of Benjamin Zephaniah's Wicked World and is credited in the book - look on Amazon to see the cover of the book, I think you are mistakenly talking about the Illustrations, not the photography. Dazeley 15:18, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Please refer to yourself in the first person, makes this easier to follow. Looking at the copyright of said book here, your name is not to be found. Rror (talk) 15:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Dazeley the writer here might not be Dazeley the photographer. I wouldn't expect the photographer of the front cover of a book to be identified on the copyright page; the rear cover of that book (same link) does say the cover photo is by Peter Dazeley. What puzzles me is: (i) Why individual book covers are noteworthy; (ii) why Tigeritasca removed publishing info; (iii) what contributions Dazeley has made to the other books. (The kinds of photographers' booklists I'm more used to are on display here [scrappy, short, incomplete] and here [longer, thought the article itself is still unsatisfactory].) -- Hoary (talk) 16:03, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

COI[edit]

User:Dazeley has just removed the COI tag on the top of the article. Since Dazeley is an unusual name, and this article on Peter Dazeley has benefitted a lot from input from User:Dazeley, I think that we're looking at COI and I have therefore put the tag back in. But perhaps I've misunderstood. If so, please explain! -- Hoary (talk) 15:52, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The uploaded images are credited to simply 'Dazeley', and according to the metadata were created from very high resolution, uncompressed sources - i.e. the original scans. Rror (talk) 16:16, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Uh oh, an IP has removed it again, and, amazingly, seems to think that the assertions in the article are backed up with sources. -- Hoary (talk) 12:24, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Unsurprisingly, the editing pattern is consistent. Again my attempts of properly formating the images have been reverted - tons of whitespace from single image galleries seems to be preferred. Rror (talk) 17:54, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Warnings at the start[edit]

Why does this page have all those warnings up at the start? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tagb07 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It has two warnings at the start.
One is about the lack of references for what is written. Actually the situation here has improved a lot since the warning was added, but I'm worried about Dazeley, son of William and Freda Dazeley MBE, is dyslexic and left school at 15 without formal qualifications. Unless this article is an autobiography (see below), how do we know that this is true?
The second warning is about "conflict of interest". Its writers seem exclusively concerned with Dazeley. Here and here, its major editor Tigeritasca says he is Dazeley; therefore this is certainly an autobiography. (Somebody might wonder whether Tigeritasca is telling the truth. He is telling the truth, as shown by the OTRS ticket cited here.) Aside from pointing out that Tim Flach is alive (a good edit, but a trivial one that need only have taken a few seconds), every edit by Brillbananaman has been about Dazeley. The only edits by Tommz123456 have been about Dazeley. And the huge majority of the edits by Dazeley have been to Dazeley: when he appears to be attending to some other person, often he's actually writing up Dazeley (example). (For that matter, your own editing pattern is similar.) -- Hoary (talk) 01:03, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

in order to keep the page accurate I have added my son who was born 19th July 2011. Peter Dazeley

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I found this article really useful for a project I am doing, I added a few links myself and had to take some away again because there were too many! tagb07````

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