Talk:Peoria Notre Dame High School

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Notable Alumni[edit]

Just been pondering this section. There are two graduates from Peoria Notre Dame who went on to play basketball in college and were successful at it. But does that rise to the level to make them notable or famous? For example, I can't find any references on Google to Jim Green who played at U of I for two years in the mid-1980's, and his inclusion in the section seems a bit obscure. On the other hand, Brian Randle at least has an actual Wikipedia entry, although maybe that has more to do with the fact that he become an important basketball player at that university in recent years rather than two decades ago. Do these sorts of entries belong in the section? Does anyone else have thoughts on the matter. Doesn't seem to hurt to leave them included, while at the same time, at least one of them doesn't seem notable, and keeping non-notable individuals gives the overall impression that the section is a bit of a "stretch". -- AzureCitizen 14:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the above and the fact that it's been quite some time, went ahead and removed one of the entries for practical notability and sourcing concerns.--AzureCitizen (talk) 17:35, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 15:53, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 2014 cleanup[edit]

Editors should be aware, when considering reliable sources, that Peoria Notre Dame has a history of requiring its faculty and students to insert administration-chosen views into the news media. I've removed a large number of claims, tagged many more, and rewritten some sections of this article, most of which didn't even have cursory sources. The article appears to suffer from a rash of stale Wikipedia:Recentism about 2006–2007 and associated confusing relative time claims like "currently" and "the past 7 years" without an indication of when "currently" was. Explanations of removals too long to fit in the edit summary:

"the school was the first high school in the country to offer an online learning day in lieu of a typical weather-related closure garnering local, regional, and national attention."
Just plain wrong. The cited Peoria Journal Star article only mentioned one class and only said that it was first for Notre Dame. No evidence of more than one class, let alone a "day", or for having any attention beyond the PJS; and the claim of being the first in the country is provably and openly false. See, for example:
  • Block, Melissa (March 07, 2007 4:00 PM ET). "No Snow Day for You: Log On to Homeroom". All Things Considered (Audio and transcript). National Public Radio. Retrieved 2014-08-18. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help) A whole news segment in 2007 about a school where online snow days were already the norm. And according to the Wayback Machine, the NPR story was already posted at its still-current address by February 2008, 2 years before the class happened at Notre Dame, so whoever posted this to Wikipedia had full access to know the claim was false before they posted it.
  • Hollingsworth, Heather (2011-07-17 5:12 am EDT). "Virtual Snow Days? Schools Experiment With Online Lessons During Bad Weather". Associated Press. Retrieved 2014-08-18. The first experiments with virtual snow days began a few years ago as individual teachers started logging on during poor weather to drill older students. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
"The Irish Nation." ... "In addition, the creation of the Irish Nation reinvigorated school spirit and made sporting events at PND much more lively"
Unsourced, self-congratulatory paragraph about some school spirit thing in 2006.
"The Peoria Notre Dame High School dance team has placed in the top 5 of state dance competitions for the past 7 years. The Peoria Notre Dame High School cheerleaders consistently place in state and local competitions. The school is known as being a local leader in soccer."
Old unsourced edits with no indication of which "past 7 years" or what is "consistent", followed by dodgy passive voice "is known" to avoid having to declare a source.
Notable alumni
All were unsourced (with some still living, therefore WP:BLP), and all from pre-1988 so provably non-PND students, most already listed in the Academy of Our Lady/Spalding Institute article. (PND's leadership would certainly feel entitled to inheriting everything before 1988 that would make them look good, but it's not Wikipedia's job to align itself with PND's marketing choices.)

--Closeapple (talk) 00:10, 19 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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