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Lawsuit section[edit]

I'm removing this, and also the summary relating to it in the lead, as it is not supported by references which meet the reliable sources criteria, resting as it does on pages from the partisan Rick Ross website and a self-published book by Ross's attorneys. If anyone can find alternative acceptable sources, please feel free to re-instate with the appropriate references. DaveApter (talk) 17:48, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dan Wakefield[edit]

In the reception section it says:

"Novelist and journalist [[Dan Wakefield]], in his review of the book in ''[[Tricycle: the Buddhist Review]]'', criticized Pressman for failing to speak with people who had positive things to say about est. Pressman described the est training as "a mish-mash of self-help theories, common-sense psychology, and dime-store ideas of motivation" while also praising the program for helping him personally in dealing with alcoholism. Wakefield also cites an opinion survey which suggests that most est participants had positive experiences with it.<ref>{{cite news |last1=Wakefield |first1=Dan |author-link1=Dan Wakefield |title=Reviews - Outrageous Betrayal: The Dark Journey of Werner Erhard from est to Exile |url=http://www.tricycle.com/reviews/outrageous-betrayal |access-date=December 2, 2019 |work=Tricycle: the Buddhist Review |date=Spring 1994 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120911075053/http://www.tricycle.com/reviews/outrageous-betrayal |archive-date=September 11, 2012}}</ref>"

But that is not a neutral reviewer and journalist, he is the guy who writes Werner Erhard's website (see near the top of http://www.wernererhard.com/boundary.html). So to pretend he is a neutral reviewer is misleading. Polygnotus (talk) 09:02, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]