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This needs to be merged with Zuihosho - --Liveforever 8 July 2005 16:34 (UTC)

Moving this page?[edit]

Every source I've encountered, including the Japanese Prime Minister's Decoration Bureau's English-language sub-page, identifies this award in terms of a singular noun -- Order of the Sacred Treasure, not Order of the Sacred Treasures ...? If it would be perceived as an improvement, I would be willing to do the work involved in correcting this trivial error.

Is there is general agreement/disagreement with moving or re-naming this page from Order of the Sacred Treasures to Order of the Sacred Treasure? Perhaps the current spelling re-direct is really all that's needed. --Ooperhoofd 18:28, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Status: pending needed support/citation?[edit]

The following names are questionable. Supporting reference citations were not found in a superficial Google search. Any or all can be promptly restored when a verified relationship to this honor is posted:

Status: notability?[edit]

Does it make sense to limit new additions to this list excluding those with plainly valid citation support, like Smith below?

Is it appropriate at this stage of the article's development to initiate a standard limiting names on this select list to

(a) those who already have Wikipedia articles
and
(b) those who are notable for something other than being honored with this Imperial decoration -- see, e.g., US Navy Cross edit history?

This diff is a first step in seeking consensus opinion. Tenmei 18:36, 2 April 2009 --Tenmei (talk) 14:20, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In a context informed by practices which seem to have worked out well at Navy Cross, all new additions who aren't already featured in an article are re-redirected to this talk page section with the following edit history explanation:

people listed here must have articles on Wikipedia and be notable for something other than receiving this Japanese honor -- see "Status: Notability" on talk page

The names of those recipients whose award is confirmed by a reliable source, but who do not have an article yet are listed below:

Class unknown

The names of those with neither confirmation by a reliable source nor an article are listed below:

In due course, perhaps all or most of these can be restored to the article. --Tenmei (talk) 18:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s L'Harmattan.
  2. ^ http://www.ny.us.emb-japan.go.jp/en/t/2010/101103.html
  3. ^ Cite error: The named reference L'Harmattan" was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  4. ^ Commander Fleet Activities, Sasebo>
  5. ^ Canedy, Dana. "Douglas Greenwald, 83, Editor And Economist for McGraw-Hill", New York Times. January 18, 1997.
  6. ^ http://www.ny.us.emb-japan.go.jp/en/t/2010/101103.html
  7. ^ 武内博編著　『来日西洋人名辞典』　日外アソシエーツ　普及版　1995
  8. ^ Kirkup, James (April 17, 2004). "René Sieffert, Japanologist who translated the 'Ten Thousand Leaves' of the Man'yōshū". Independent. London.
  9. ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Order with gold rays and rosette
  10. ^ L'Harmattan web site(in French), Order with gold rays and rosette
  11. ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Order with gold rays and rosette
  12. ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Order with gold rays and rosette
  13. ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Order with gold rays and rosette
  14. ^ (Reference from "El Pais", Spanish newspaper); Asociación de Estudios Japoneses (Spanish): [1].
  15. ^ Honor awarded 1973 -- Appelo, Tim. "University of the Future: The physical transformation into a premier independent university," Seattle University Magazine. Summer 2008; Kubota Gardens: short history.
  16. ^ a b Cite error: The named reference L'Harmattan gsrays was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  17. ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), First Latin American honored by Japanese government
  18. ^ Gilpin, Kenneth (December 3. 1997). "Tristan E. Beplat, 85, Banker Who Aided Japan After War". New York Times. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
  19. ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Commander
  20. ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Commander
  21. ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Grand Cross
  22. ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Order with gold rays
  23. ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Order with ribbon and gold rays, presented in person by H. M. Emperor Akihito
  24. ^ Lavietes, Stuart. "Frank Okamura, Bonsai Expert, Is Dead at 94", New York Times. January 14, 2006.
  25. ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Grand officer
  26. ^ L'Harmattan web site (in French), Commander
  27. ^ Out of Japan - TIME
  28. ^ Johnston, David Cay. "Carl S. Shoup, 97; Shaped Japan's Tax Code", New York Times. March 31, 2000.
  29. ^ L'Harmattan web site(in French), Order with gold rays
  30. ^ Honor award 14 September 1968

Status: verifiability?[edit]

Does it make sense to limit new additions to this list? This thread is a first step in seeking consensus opinion.

Is it appropriate at this stage of the article's development to initiate a standard limiting names on this select list to

(a) those who already have Wikipedia articles
and
(b) those whose award of this Japanese honor is also verified by a reliable source citation -- see, e.g., US Navy Cross edit history?

In a context informed by practices which seem to have worked out well at Navy Cross, all new additions who aren't already featured in an article could be re-redirected to this talk page section with the following edit history explanation:

the award of this Japanese honor must be confirmed by a reliable source citation -- see "Status: verifiability" on talk page

The names of those with neither confirmation by a reliable source nor an article are listed below:

The names of those with an article, but with no reliable source confirming this honor are listed below:

Class unknown

In due course, perhaps all or most of these can be restored to the article. --Tenmei (talk) 18:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is it appropriate at this stage of the article's development to initiate a standard limiting names on this select list to (a) those who already have Wikipedia articles and (b) those whose award of this Japanese honor is also verified by a reliable source citation -- Yes, every person included should both have an article and have a disinterested, reliable source for the claim of an award. -- Hoary (talk)
No. The article is about the award itself, not the people who have received it. Any list should include any recipient of the award, whether or not they have a wiki page. That they do not have a wiki page does not get away from the fact that they received the award. It should always be so. I have been caught out by this in the past. I added a name to a list, only to have it removed because the individual did not have an English Wikipedia page (they had one in another language, which I HAD linked to). We have to get away from this sort of thing.--Samesawed (talk) 10:24, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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