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The album "Orchestral Favorites" is a Rock and Roll album? Besides one guitar solo, I'd align most of it with modern classical music.

Need to have verification of exactly what tapes FZ delivered to Warner Bros in 1976. His contract called for him to deliver 4 albums. He has claimed that what he actually delivered were Studio Tan, Sleep Dirt, Orchestral Favorites and Zappa in New York (2 LP's) for a total of 5 discs worth of material. There is no proof that FZ ever offered Lather to Warner. And besides that was only 1 album of 4 discs. Lather would not have fulfilled the contractual requirements. Thought both sets have unique material he actually created 4 discs out of 5, not the other way around. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.225.244.228 (talk) 03:25, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone needs to put back the info I added to this article about the individual albums. In spite of what Gail Zappa says, the truth is that the individual albums were created in 1976 BEFORE this material was edited into Leather in 1977. Then after Leather was created Warner suddenly decided to put out the individual albums anyway in 1978 and 1979. Sorry, but Gail does not know nearly as much about FZ history as the most devoted and fanatical fans.

While it is true that Leather was always a 4 album box, the material in Leather was finished and compiled into the individual albums over a year before Leather was created. So technically Gail is right, just mis-informed. Zappa delivered all the 4 individual albums to Warner all at once in an attempt to end his contract. Warner considered much of the material to be below his usual standard and refused to pay out a large lump sum for all of them at once. That is when things began to get really ugly. There are interviews FZ did at the time that confirm all of this. I just don't have them handy right now.

Dweezil has also stated in interviews that this issue changed the way all record contracts are written. These days an artist can't deliver all of the albums of their contract at once, as FZ tried to do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.225.244.228 (talk) 03:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anon, you are wrong. It was an 8-sided album, then four individual albums. Zappa tried to get out of his contract because they wouldn't release Leather. WTF (talk) 05:32, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Individual albums came first[edit]

Now that user Wisdomtenacityfocus|WTF has been blocked from editing here the article can be corrected. The truth is that the individual albums came first. Despite the claims of Gail Zappa and WTF there never has been any proof that Läther came before the 4 individual albums or that Zappa ever delivered Läther to Warner.75.172.192.233 (talk) 11:11, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Orchestral Favorites/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

This history is in direct conflict with the history of the same recording as specified in the history section on the Zappa album Lather. I believe the Lather information to be true and some of the entry info in the entry for Orchestral Favorites to be false.

Last edited at 20:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 01:56, 30 April 2016 (UTC)