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POV fork[edit]

Should be merged and redirected to 2021 Israel–Palestine crisis. nableezy - 21:34, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yep.Selfstudier (talk) 08:46, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Article name[edit]

Hello, I think that the article's name should be changed to a neutral title, because the current title is the Israeli designation for war. The title of the article should be something like the Gaza War (2008–2009) and the 2014 Gaza War. أمين (talk) 01:19, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So currently, there has been no official declaration of war from any party (that I know of). Also, no major news sources refer to the events as a war. If things do escalate to war and RS start referring to it as such, then it would warrant a move. That could happen in a day, weeks, months, or (hopefully) not at all. Until then, I think it's best to keep it as is. Blade Jogger 2049 ^Talk 01:38, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, i was just reading so sorry if i'm replying the wrong way or something, but how about the "2021 Israel-Palestine Conflict"? -AD

Death toll[edit]

4 new victims + the 2 women at the beginning, death toll : 6 https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/cogat-announces-closure-of-gaza-border-crossing-over-rocket-fire-667730 --Sandtransman (talk) 01:55, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for putting the Palestinian death toll up front and centre. Neutral articles are the best of Wikipedia. Stellar work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.175.166.59 (talk) 13:18, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 May 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

It was proposed in this section that Operation Guardian of the Walls be renamed and moved to 2021 Gaza conflict.

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Procedural close. Merging of this article with 2021 Israel–Palestine crisis leaves behind a redirect that is ineligible to be a current title in a move request. Kudos to all editors for your input, and Happy, Healthy Publishing! (nac by page mover) P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 07:01, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Operation Guardian of the Walls → 2021 Gaza conflict – The current name only uses the name used by Israel's military operation, but the hostilities are also happening in Israel (the rocket attacks). One attack by a Palestinian intelligence service member also happened in West Bank [1]. The attacks are carried out by both sides. However as the combat is mostly happening in Gaza, I recommend renaming it to "2021 Gaza conflict", like the 2014 Gaza war. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 01:56, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. This will almost certainly grow in scope. Colin dm (talk) 03:08, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly but keep the military operation names as is used in previous Israel-Gaza wars. Durdyfiv1 (talk) 04:14, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose and Merge: POV name. This material is being covered in 2021 Israel-Palestine crisis anyway so what is the hurry to split it up? Selfstudier (talk) 08:35, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Change it to 2021 Gaza–Israel clashes, it sure may be too violent to be classed as clashes but that’s what sources call it. Ridax2020 (talk) 10:35, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, wait for the confrontation to end or develop. Also think the whole confrontation, from the early racial clashes during Ramadan, through the conflict at Sheikh Jarakh and the Temple Mount and up to the escalation by Hamas should all be considered part of the same event. There was relative calm between Israel and the Palestinians throughout the entire Coronavirus crisis and the Ramadan month was the chronological starting point of this escalation. Other factors contributing are the postponed Palestinian elections and the Israeli parliamentary crisis.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 10:41, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, there is already an article called 2021 Israel–Palestine crisis, no need to create a WP:FORK. This article should, however, focus only on the military operation in Gaza, and perhaps at this stage it's not needed and should be deleted, since the operation is only one aspect of a larger conflict. “WarKosign ” 10:50, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. I repeat my proposition to wait and allow the events to unveil and in the meantime doccument important information and later move or merge the information. We are at a very early stage to determine what exactly is going on.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 12:00, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose and Merge with 2021 Israel-Palestine crisis. Shushugah (talk) 12:39, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose and Merge: Would merge with 2021 Israel–Palestine crisis. Makes more sense that way

DXLBandLokiBlaster 13:11, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge, there is enough one article on the topic. Wikisaurus (talk) 14:07, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 May 2021[edit]

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Change ! Hamas Commander killed to 1 Hamas Commander killed.

It is under the casualties section of the template. Just a typo. AI coolTIM (talk) 03:26, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Already done — IVORK _Talk 06:44, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ramadan[edit]

The background to the violence is the Month of Ramadan, in which traditionally Muslims have achieved military victories. Ramadan ends on May 12. Prior to the events on Mount Temple were torching of Israeli fields in the Gaza Envelope by Palestinian arson ^[1] using balloon bombs. 40 such fields went ablaze on 9.5.21, the day prior to the riots in Jerusalem and Lod. אורורה בוריאליס (talk) 04:35, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/rkqoeUBu00

Extended article[edit]

I know this will seem obvious, but we should update this as much as possible, as the issue is growing Edskiash (talk) 05:33, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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800 rockets till now 2402:3A80:66A:8F37:41A6:5474:B7C8:CA25 (talk) 08:54, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Run n Fly (talk) 11:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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In the end of the Casualties section it is written "Two more civilians and a soldier died the next day.[26]" However there is to both add that this was an attack done with a guided AT missile on a civilian vehicle and also remove the mention that he was a soldier as it is something that I personally atleast cannot find sources that confirm his occupation. This incident is still ongoing and the identity of the victim is still unknown to the public. SteelMailbox (talk) 10:57, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: already a notice {{Current}} is placed and data will be updated as soon as information available supported by reliable sources Run n Fly (talk) 12:03, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

File:Bus and car burnt out after rocket hit in Holon Photo by Yoav Keren.jpg[edit]

Please insert this file into the article. Fire of a bus and a car in the city of Holon on May 11, 2021 after a rocket hit--היידן (talk) 11:21, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/rkqoeUBu00

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