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Operation Prime Chance[edit]

There is already an Operation Prime Chance article. So, why is an event that occurred as part of that Operation included in this one?

--Born2flie 06:44, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly this mean?[edit]

On 14 April 1988, the American frigate USS Copeland, while on patrol, encountered trouble with its primary missile launcher. The Samuel B. Roberts, assuming Copeland's patrol area, struck an Iranian mine and was badly damaged. Hesames (talk) 23:24, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My dates of service, from '89 to '91, include my Armed Forces Expeditionary Service Medal for Operation Earnest Will. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.105.198.203 (talk) 19:24, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of sources[edit]

FYI, a list of sources on this subject can be found here: [1]. Cla68 (talk) 03:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why was the list of the other naval vessels involved with this operation deleted? Refer to Command History For Calender Year 1987 for USS Gridley (CG 21) to Director of Naval History for complete list of United States Naval Vessels deployed in this operation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danimal362 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 12 January 2011 (UTC) What about HM-14 and the LPH's involved ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.70.40 (talk) 02:01, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Operation U.S.[edit]

This and the next four articles are 90% U.S. sided, with NO Iranian sources, we should expand these articles and consider the possiblities with valid sources, thanks.--Ariobarza (talk) 04:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)Ariobarza talk[reply]

More information is always welcome. The problem has always been with finding valid sources. PRRfan (talk) 16:06, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No US cruisers were heavily damaged, there is no citation for Iranian "coaporated" (sic) Iraqi fighters OR 37 U.S. Marines KIA. Such claims require citations. --Dual Freq (talk) 21:42, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ship list[edit]

To attempt to make a list here would be pointless, I have removed the largely uncited list which follows: --Dual Freq (talk) 00:24, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with the list are as follows, Is this a list of only units actually in the convoys? If so then the units providing support like the a/c carriers, Missouri and Bunker Hill would be removed. If not, then the list will be large enough to include basically every ship in the USN that deployed to the region during that time frame, I'm guessing 100+ ships. I don't see much point in listing essentially all deployable navy assets within this article. In April 1988 Samuel B. Roberts was on EW88025, the 25th convoy of 1988, and that was only April. There were at least 18 convoys the year before as All Hands magazine describes Thach on EW87018. --Dual Freq (talk) 00:24, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The list has been replaced with the text: In the following 14 months, many U.S. warships took up escort duties, at one point over 30 warships were in the region supporting the operation. cited by Pyle, Richard (October 26, 1988). "Navy learns many lessons in gulf battle". Lakeland Ledger. Associated Press.. I think it is more than adequate. This is not a list article. --Dual Freq (talk) 01:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Again, the list is pointless, see above. Few of the items were cited and a complete list would likely contain over 100 ships. This is not a list article and there is no point in list-cruft. What is the scope of the list? Is the list supposed to only be for escort ships? The list deleted included oilers, aircraft carriers and battleships, these were not escorts. --Dual Freq (talk) 20:41, 18 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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How long did Earnest Will last?[edit]

Well, this is interesting. The National Archives has a page saying that veterans' preference is to be given people who served in the operation from "July 24, 1987, to August 1, 1990". This ending date is much later than the operation's actual ending date: 26 September 1988 (per the Navy history command and many other sources). The very next item in the Archives page has a similarly distended time span for an operation ("Persian Gulf Operation (Operation Southern Watch) December 1, 1995, to present"). So I don't know why this date is given on the vets' preference page, but I don't think it's a reason to change the date in the article. I'm going to revert the anon's good-faith edit. PRRfan (talk) 16:00, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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