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Neutrality issue?[edit]

I have a feeling that someone from the college themselves wrote this article. Not only is it blatantly advertising itself (See WP:SOAP) with statements like "The Oldham COllege is an Outstanding vocational college", it also has next to no citations for anything relevant.

I added a few templates in case anyone wants to help and I'm also going to we-write at some point. 2.123.7.17 (talk) 18:43, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Outstanding" sounds like it might have been taken from the Ofsted report, and skimming through it it seems to be used several times. That said the article could certainly use a bit of TLC. Nev1 (talk) 18:52, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, but I still feel like it's exploiting an ambiguous loophole in order to try and promote itself - It's just like the movie posters that take review lines out of context. I'm somewhat sure that it wouldn't have been mentioned if the college has been ranked "Inadequate" and for that reason it should instead simply state that it was ranked "Outstanding" by OFSTED in 2008. 2.123.7.17 (talk) 19:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

True, although in the interests of neutrality Wikipedia should mention if the school's latest report said the school was inadequate; some articles manage this but it varies. What do you think of the following: "In February 2008, Ofsted published an inspection report describing the school as "outstanding""? Nev1 (talk) 19:17, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notable alumni / teachers[edit]

I've moved to following list out of the article as it was unreferenced. I'll be looking for sources for these, but they shouldn't be re-added without verification. Nev1 (talk) 18:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oldham born actress Sarah Lancashire (formerly of Coronation Street)
British actress Jane Horrocks, (from Little Voice and Absolutely Fabulous) IIRC she said on Desert Island Disks she was discriminated against at Oldham College because she was from Rochdale 13.5 minutes into the podcast
Paul Walsh, CEO Diageo plc.
Suzanne Shaw, former member of the pop group Hear'Say.
Rochdale born actress Anna Friel.
Dale Longworth and Kevin O'Toole, who founded the dance music group N-Trance, and singer Kelly Llorenna, who has worked with the group and performed solo.
Salford born television presenter Danielle Nicholls.
Matt Healy, Actor (Matthew King from ITV's soap Emmerdale)
Steve Diggle, musician, Buzzcocks guitarist.
Alan Lynch, also known as The Part P Doctor [1] and author of the book of the same name – College lecturer.
Anthony Flanagan, actor
Samantha Power, actress (from Little Britain)

No Longer a CoVE--there are none any longer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.13.226.237 (talk) 00:17, 26 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved as requested. Favonian (talk) 09:31, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Oldham College → Oldham College –

Oldham College has changed it's name from The Oldham College to Oldham College. This can be seen by viewing the official website www.oldham.ac.uk Finnifog (talk) 10:53, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Where would we see that? Mr Stephen (talk) 14:00, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support I'm not sure if it's any different with British schools, but I know for US universities, we omit the "The" even in the names of institutions that usually insist upon it in official contexts—George Washington University and Ohio State University seem to be the most prominent examples of this practice, but you'll notice those aren't redirects. --BDD (talk) 18:18, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support: since it is now their offical name and I don't see any controversy in dropping the 'The'.--Michaela den (talk) 09:56, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Where would I look to find that "it is now their offical name"? Mr Stephen (talk) 18:37, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support. "The" should never have been included in the article title in the first place. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:06, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:THE: when in doubt, do not use the definite article for universities. Note, BTW, that "official" names do not apply on Wikipedia: WP:OFFICIALNAMES. ENeville (talk) 20:22, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Conflict of interest editing[edit]

A couple of IP editors have made major contributions to the article, the latest one including the word "our", implying a connection with the college. I haven't reverted because I think the article as it stood, before they edited it, was probably unfair on the college in its current state. Much of the information added may be accurate. The ofsted inspection, for example, could easily be verified, and much of the text that the IP editor removed looks almost like an attack-page. On the other hand, much of the information they've added is wildly promotional, and none of it is backed up by sources. This article desperately needs a clean-up from someone who knows what they're talking about, but who can do things in a neutral and balanced way. Elemimele (talk) 22:14, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the COI template because the IP editor has returned and removed the non-neutral material, and added a citation for the Ofsted report. Although the 45M investment could do with a citation, the article is not over-promotional, and the editor has done a decent job, whether or not they have a COI. Elemimele (talk) 13:26, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]