Talk:Nuu-chah-nulth language

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Name of language, in the language, pls[edit]

Just wondering what the proper form for the name of the language is; obviously not Nuu-chah-nulth when speaking within the language, huh? St'at'imcets has two names from within the language: St'at'imcets - "language of St'at'" and Ucwalmicwts - "language of the nation". What's the Nuu-chah-nulth equivalent, if there is one? Haklomelem, Syilx'tsn, Secwepemctsin are all equivalent as language names, within those languages.Skookum1 03:00, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The name is T'aat'aaqsapa; it appears in the NTC's 1991 publication "Our world-Our Ways: t'aat'aaqsapa Cultural Dictionary", and an internet search for the term will yield appropriate references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.51.133.212 (talk) 21:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen the language referred to as ciiqciiqa seen in the dictionary here, quuquuatsa from the quuquuatsa Language Society. It is mentioned here as translating to "the language we speak". Another that I've heard is ḥihiškʷiiʔatḥa, which means "Hesquiaht language" and refers to the Hesquiaht dialect of the language. The reduplication of the first syllable and addition of the -a suffix can be used for other dialects, such as c̓ic̓išaaʔatḥa for example. This can be found in the dictionary linked above. A similar word would be ʔuuʔuukʷaʔatḥa, which means "speaking own dialect", this can be found in the aforementioned "Our World-Our Ways: t̓aat̓aaqsapa Cultural Dictionary" with varied spellings based on dialect. Mebis3 (talk) 18:31, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The pharyngeal non-stop: a non-pharyngeal stop?[edit]

/ʕˀ/ is an approximant, not a fricative (IPA does not have a unique symbol for this sound). This phoneme functions phonologically as a pharyngeal stop which is realized as a glottalized pharyngeal semivowel (approximant).

Could it be an epiglottal plosive? When looked at more closely, many pharyngeals all over the world seem to have turned out to be epiglottal consonants. David Marjanović (talk) 01:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I want to say no. If sources clarify that it's not a fricative but an approximant then that goes in the opposite direction of it possibly being an epiglottal plosive. It could be an epiglottal fricative/approximant, but we'd need sources to find out. Æµ§œš¹ _{[aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi]} 06:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dictionary?[edit]

Why is the dictionary mentioned under Vowels?

The paragraph reads:

A dictionary of the language, with some 7,500 entries, was created after 15 years of research. It is based on both work with current speakers and notes from linguist Edward Sapir, taken almost a century ago. The dictionary, however, is a subject of controversy, with a number of Nuu-chah-nulth elders questioning the accuracy of the terminology, and the author's right to represent their language.

Should this be perhaps expanded and put in its own section, or should it be moved elsewhere (like the introduction)?

James Who (talk) 15:24, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I read the article again and I'm putting that paragraph and that preceding it into a separate section entitled "Vocabulary". Please expand this section if you have any more information. James Who (talk) 15:26, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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