Talk:Nonsuch Park

Speculations on the straight, parallel, level concrete paths

Earlier version read:

"...concrete for a dual carriageway on a raised embankment running parallel to the path known as "The Avenue" and to the south east of it, complete with a pedestrian underpass approximately one quarter of the way along..."

The author points out that these parallel concrete paths are too narrow to be a conventional dual carriageway. It could be added that the 'road' does not connect to any other, at either end, which seems bizarre even for an incomplete construction project, and that more trouble was taken to construct the paths straight and level than a road requires.

It would be fascinating to know the true origin and function of these paths.

A clue could have been the 'underpass', which has now been removed (probably in 2005). It did not in fact pass entirely under the roadways but was raised, blocking any 'road traffic', and having access hatches to the road as well as signs of other construction.

A guess would be that the 'underpass' was for loading/unloading and that the paths were used for movement and storage, in connection with the second world war. Could some track have run from the 'underpass' to the rail line close by?

Any information would be appreciated.

I would also note that the concrete roadways are quite distinct from, and not part of, The Avenue. markandrewberry 12:11, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

• Good hypothesis, except there was no actual access to the concrete strips. No idea where to find the info though. Fiddle Faddle 11:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I think that whaterver connected with the 'underpass' provided the connection.

There is information in a London Loop leaflet at http://www.walklondon.org.uk/uploads/File/leaflets/loop7directions_15022011181404.pdf, but these leaflets are often unreliable. Another source of unknown reliablity is at http://edithsstreets.blogspot.com/2009/09/londonsurrey-boundary-nonsuch.html. Dudley Miles 17:30, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Both these sources repeat the notion of an abandonned road project or 'ghost road' but do not give any supporting evidence. Surely planning, starting to build and then abandonning a road project would leave a significant historical record. I maintain that these concrete structures do not look like a road, being too narrow and absolutely straight and level. They must have had another function. markandrewberry 15:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Park vs Palace

Can I suggest this article is used for the Park and not the Palace of Nonsuch which has its own entry —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Keith Hazell (talk • contribs) 22:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC).

There is space for each article. Provided there is not a substantial duplication of material or a POV fork there is no issue with cross referring to a small amount of information in the other article. Please don't just grab material form one article and put it into another unless you have considered the action carefully. The item you removed has a place here as a minor item, but also a potentially major place in the Palace article. Fiddle Faddle 23:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough, no issue, but my basic point remains that there is far more to Nonsuch Park than merely the home of the Palace which does have its own entry. Keith Hazell 20:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

The two are freestanding entities with an intersection at the place where the palace was built. One has to be careful when editing such intersecting articles to locate the elements in the right place and simply refer to them from the other. As an example, the reference to the archaeological dig which you took has a valid place in this article, but should not be developed here. The simple reference to it here is sufficient, though, since it had a notable effect in archeology it might even merit its own article. However, the right place for it to be expanded currently is in the palace article.

However, looking at the way it has been incorporated into the palace article, it seems to me that there has been an editing error. It has been both minimised and placed in a peculiar place that does not flow. This was probably not your intention, or I hope it was not, and would warrant a further look. My error. I misread entirely. Fiddle Faddle 22:59, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Your basic point is well made. This article is a stub and would benefit from a content expert to enhance it and turn it into the well referenced article the park deserves. Fiddle Faddle 20:42, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Opening of the park

In the Borough of Epsom and Ewell Charter Souvenir 1937, page 34 (for want of a better link [1]) it states that Lord Snell, Chairman of the London County Council officially opened Nonsuch Park as part of the celebrations on the granting of the Charter. Jackiespeel (talk) 22:01, 18 December 2017 (UTC)