Talk:Nicholas of Worcester

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Error?[edit]

This article states twice that Wulfstan was the last surviving Anglo-Saxon bishop. However, it also describes Theulf (apparently an Anglo-Saxon) as a bishop who survived Wulfstan. Wulfstan's page merely claims that he is the last surviving pre-Conquest bishop. Is it possible that this is an error? I cannot access the paywalled sources. Riposte97 (talk) 00:47, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography states that Theulf's origins are unclear, but he may well have come from Normandy. It is very unlikely that he was Anglo-Saxon in view of the prejudice against promoting them in this period. Dudley Miles (talk) 08:25, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An undefined term[edit]

The term "held in plurality" is used twice in this article and many if not most readers will probably be unfamiliar with it. The best definition is in Crockford's Clerical Dictionary at this URL which states:

Plurality

(in the expression ‘held in plurality’) describes the situation when one priest is incumbent of two or more benefices, which are in other respects independent. This situation is usually resolved by forming one ‘united benefice’.

I would have wikilinked the WP entry Ecclesiastical polity#Plurality and singularity but then that section is mostly concerned with the plurality of elders and

A pastor with two churches may be said to have a "dual charge". In the Church of England, two or more otherwise independent benefices may be 'held in plurality' by a single priest.

but then "benefices" is wikilinked to the Church of England's definition Benefice#Church of England and is that the same as the Roman Catholic usage at the time of Nicholas? I'd like to add a Note (section) explaining what the term "held in plurality" means, with a cite to Crockford's or more but hesitate to do so out of deference since this article is the present Featured Article on the Main Page. Always willing to discuss and see what other editors think. - Shearonink (talk) 02:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think Benefice#Pluraliwm covers it and I have linked to that. I do not think a note is necessary as the meaning is clear in the context, but I will add it if other editors think it is needed. Dudley Miles (talk) 08:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clergyperson[edit]

The short description and one of the categories suggest that Nicholas was a member of the clergy. Do we actually have a citation for that? I don't see any mention of it in the body of the article. Graham (talk) 03:26, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging Dudley Miles who brought the article to FAC. Graham (talk) 03:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know the answer to this. I did not add the mentions of clergy and I have deleted them. Dudley Miles (talk) 08:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]