Talk:Nadella

Requested move 16 November 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Consensus to move to Nadella. Editors decided against the primary redirect to Satya Nadella as there is no evidence that he is the primary topic. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 05:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

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Nadella (surname) → Nadella (name) – Two of the three people listed have "Nadella" as a personal name, not a surname. The current disambiguator is not a good fit. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 12:44, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:43, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• @50.248.234.77, TheAafi, and MRRaja001: queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:46, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

  50.248.234.77; I would rather request that this be moved to Nadella which is unnecessary redirecting towards a BLP about Satya Nadella. Thank you. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 12:59, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

This diff shows that MRRaja001 changed the redirect target of Nadella from Nadella (surname) to Satya Nadella and prior to this, they moved this towards Nadella (surname). Reverting this move/redirect thing would be best. I guess. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 13:03, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

I wouldn't object to moving the page to Nadella either. I simply preferred to make a more conservative request on the "techical" page. It's not clear to me that Satya Nadella is the primary topic for "Nadella" either. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 13:07, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Full disclosure: this edit byMRRaja001 (which I have reverted) seems to be an objection to the move. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 13:31, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

@TheAafi:@50.248.234.77: Nadella is a surname and not a name. Here are (Citation1 - [B. Ramaraju (2002). Contribution of Andhra to Samskrit Literature. Andhra University. p. 402. Medhadakshinamurti son of Muktikantamani and Purushottama kavi of Nadella family and Haritasagotra ] for Nadella Purushottama Kavi) and Citation2 - ["When diversity is seen as discrimination". Livemint. Retrieved 15 February 2014. The Nadella family, belonging to the Brahmin community, hails from the Bukkapuram village, Anantapur district. ] for Satya Nadella). Most of the references are using Satya Nadella's name as Nadella, So it's better not to change the redirect as well as the name of article either, Thanks - MRRaja001 ^(talk) 13:41, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

@TheAafi:@50.248.234.77: From the given citations and their respective quotes it is evident that it is family name or Surname and not a name. @Fylindfotberserk:@LukeEmily:@Prolix: What is your opinion on this, Thanks - MRRaja001 ^(talk) 13:47, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

I don't want to debate about what actually Nadella is. What is certain is that its primary subject is not Satya Nadella. Nadella (surname) should be moved back to its original title Nadella. That's what I propose. Thank you. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 14:24, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Now that we're into long-discussion territory, I support moving to Nadella with no disambiguation. There is no evidence that Satya Nadella is the primary meaning of Nadella, so no reason that he should get the undisambiguated term as a redirect. Furthermore, the fact that "Nadella" is sometimes used as a surname does not mean that it is always used as a surname; two of the three items on this page are not surname usages. The disambiguation page (which this is) should occupy the primary title slot. 50.248.234.77 (talk) 16:02, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

@50.248.234.77: Satya Nadella, Nadella Purushottama Shastri, Nadella Nandagopal -- All the three items have Nadella as surname and not as name. - MRRaja001 ^(talk) 17:26, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

• Move to Nadella. Satya Nadella is not referred to mononymously in the way that Einstein and Tchaikovsky are (even headlinese uses his full name [1][2]), so I agree with nom & TheAafi that he's not the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT for the bare surname. Regarding the confusion over which part of these names is the surname, please see Telugu name. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 01:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

• Don't Move to Nadella - Satya Nadella is mononymously reffered as "Nadella" in many references.
  Here are some of them:
  • Book:
    • Nadella: The Changing Face of Microsoft; Publisherd by Hachette UK in 2014;
  • News:
    • Microsoft doubles down on Windows as PCs become lifeline: Nadella by The Economic Times
    • Microsoft Teams platform reaches 115mn daily active users: Nadella by The Economic Times
    • Microsoft's Nadella says streamlined cloud approach can improve reskilling by Livemint
    • Zerodha co-founder lauds Nadella's speech at WEF, says top bosses should prioritise environment over profitability by The Economic Times
    • A true-blue cricket lover: Nadella refuses to choose between Kohli & Sachin, says it's like 'picking religions' by The Economic Times
    • Quality of ideas, ambition of Indian entrepreneurs and innovators exciting: Nadella by The Economic Times
    • BJP cites Nadella's official statement, says govt protecting borders by The Economic Times
    • In Mumbai, Microsoft boss Nadella trumpets cloud tie-up with India's Reliance by The Economic Times
    • Developers need to be responsible, should focus on trust, inclusivity: Nadella by The Economic Times
    • Microsoft’s Nadella Talks About the Future of Office by The New York Times
    • Microsoft welcomes scrutiny of tech industry that has roiled its competition this year, says CEO Nadella. Easy for him to say. by The Washington Post
    • How Nadella's cloud background could change Microsoft's business by The Washington Post
    • Microsoft names Nadella as CEO; Gates out as chairman by The Washington Post
    • Microsoft CEO Nadella visits D.C. to promote cloud products for federal use by The Washington Post
    • CEO Nadella to DC audience: Microsoft to focus on productivity by The Washington Post
    • 'Kingmaker Nadella': How Tiktok could become Microsoft's deal of the decade by Business Standard
    • Cook, Nadella and Pichai stand together in support of racial equality by Business Standard
    • Have empathy for those who are scared: Nadella condemns George Floyd death by Business Standard
    • Microsoft saw 2 years of digital transformation happen in 2 months: Nadella by Business Standard
    • Covid-19 hit supply chain returning to normal, but demand a worry: Nadella by Business Standard
  • Videos:
    • Nadella named Microsoft CEO, Gates nearby by The New York Times
    • Nadella Says Children's Challenges Taught Him Empathy by Bloomberg Markets and Finance channel on Youtube
    • India can become premier digital society, Ambani tells Nadella at Microsoft event by The Economic Times on Youtube
    • Microsoft names Nadella CEO, Gates to step down as chairman by The Los Angeles Times
      From the above citations we can clearly say that "Nadella" is mononymously referred to Satya Nadella - MRRaja001 ^(talk) 08:36, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

• Move to Nadella (and remove the existing redirect to Satya Nadella). The main topic here is the name. As an analogy, Bill Gates is often referred to as Gates. However, that doesn't mean Gates or Gates (surname) should redirect to his article.--DreamLinker (talk) 08:36, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
• Move to Nadella per DreamLinker. Being referred to by surname is not the same as a mononymous name. Case in point, none of the other surnames presented in the above references like Cook, Pichai, Ambani redirect to their bios.--Ab207 (talk) 09:11, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

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