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It's nice that someone actually took the time to add some decent information on Mt. Pinos. It could use a section on astronomers that come up here, though. I would do it, but I don't know enough information about it. I just know that they say it's the best spot around for hundreds of miles. Cygnus 01:39, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks: yes I go up there regularly, and thought it was time for an entry. I added a paragraph on the popularity of the site with amateur astronomers. Antandrus (talk) 02:53, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Pinos is not in the San Emigdios[edit]

It's not in a formally named range. The San Emigdios are on the other side of the San Andreas Fault. A mountain range cannot cross a plate boundary. See the USGS GNIS definition for the San Emigdios -- http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=gnispq:3:394360812025631::NO::P3_FID:252092 -- the highest point in the San Emigdios is not Pinos, but San Emigdio Mountain. Can someone please find me a reliable source -- not "peakbagger", a local website, or something not peer-reviewed -- that claims that Pinos is in the San Emigdios? Thanks, Antandrus (talk) 01:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't look at me. I didn't add that. I am not at all sure about your assertion though. The USGS page you cite lists Sawmill Mountain as being in the San Emigdios and it is on the same side of the scarp as Mount Pinos. Your point about plates is interesting. I guess you would need a good source to remove the statement though. As it turns out names usually have little to do with reality but often are the result of some subjective process. (Or whatever.) —droll [chat] 02:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I know you didn't add it -- when I saw the page light up on my watchlist, it reminded me of something that's been bugging me for a couple of years now -- that the error of adding Pinos to the San Emigdios has proliferated wildly around the internet, and now everyone is quoting our pages -- which are mistaken. By the way, where does it say that Sawmill Mountain is in the San Emigdios? If it does, then indeed that is a reliable source saying so. Farther down the page there is a mention of one coordinate which is on the USGS quad map named Sawmill Mountain (the San Emigdios are on the northern portion of the quad map, on the other side of the San Andreas Fault, i.e. on the North American, not the Pacific plate). That's this point -- Sawmill Mountain is on the other side of the fault (near the lower case 'n' in Pinos). I'm just asking a general question to anyone else who may happen to be watching this page. Antandrus (talk) 02:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your rignt. Point well made. —droll [chat]

I decided to be bold and remove mention of the San Emigdios from the article. I removed a mention in the [[Sawmill Mountain] article which is on the same side of the scarp. —droll [chat]

They've come back again, so I've removed them again. The USGS record is definitive: [1]; "peakbagger" is not peer reviewed, and is not a reliable source. Antandrus (talk) 17:42, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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