Talk:Monsey Church

Monsey Church was nominated as a Art and architecture good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (December 2, 2011). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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Architecture[edit]

I removed the Architecture section for the time being ... too technical and hard to document. To revisit in future, I hope.

Architecture[edit]

Built in 1869, the Monsey Church building is an example of the Greek Revival style that was popular in much of the United States throughout the early 1800s. It is rectangular and front-gabled, with a medium-pitched roof. Originally of white clapboard construction, the exterior is now white aluminum in a clapboard style. The front door surround consists of symmetrical pilasters, and an entablature of bracketed cornice and frieze. There is a lunette with radial muntins in the tympanum.

The building also incorporates elements of the Italianate style that was increasingly popular at the time of construction. There are prominent brackets under the eaves and the front door and belfry cornices. There is a square, flat-roofed belfry, each side of which has a round-arched sound opening with downward-pointing louvers, surrounded by two pairs of pilasters supporting an entablature consisting of a frieze and bracketed cornice. Other than the additional pilaster on each side of a sound opening, the pilasters and entablature match the surround on the front door. On either side of the front door are two long rectangular 20-over-20 sash windows, and both lateral sides of the building have three sets of the same. Pwdennis2 (talk) 13:51, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to add a section on relations with the Jewish Community. I have a quotation from the Rev. John Rozendal, who worked in Monsey in the late-40s (page 28 of Van Halsema's 1955 history), and some correspondence from the late spring of 1979 in which the church complained about a large rally/demonstration by Jews that effectively shut down Main Street and prevented the church from worshiping on a Sunday morning. --Pwdennis2 (talk) 14:22, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Monsey Church/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Njavallil (talk · contribs) 21:30, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Monsey Church[edit]

Hi, I only have 572 edits but I think, as a reader this is an excellent written, brilliantly structured article. So Wikipedia community thinks this satisfy Wikipedia's Policies. --Njavallil ...Talk 2 Me 21:30, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with your conclusion and I am implementing an Individual reassessment per Wikipedia:Good article reassessment. This article currently fails Wikipedia:Good article criteria 6 which requires that images are tagged with their copyright status or valid fair use rationales. There are many images used here and they claim they are the work of Pwdennis2. Through inductive reasoning, I think I understand where the images are coming from, but they do not belong to Pwdennis2. If the source of the images is the church or an historical society, then they should be attributed in as the source. Also, File:NewHopeLogo300.png clearly belongs to this organization which does claim "Copyright © 2011 New Hope Christian Church - All Rights Reserved" and so does require explicit permission. As such, I have delisted the article. If the images are properly tagged with the appropriate copyright tags, it can be re-nominated or anyone can appeal my conclusions using a community reassessment at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment. maclean (talk) 01:52, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Further to that, even when the source of the images is tagged as the church/historical society... if the image is still in copyright (e.g. the photographer died less than 70 years ago), then the copyright holder (likely to be the photographer) should give their licensing by commons:COM:OTRS. Owning a physical copy of the image does not give you the right to copy it or choose a license on their behalf. --99of9 (talk) 04:30, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]