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PoV[edit]

I'd dispute the neutrality of this page. I think it is PoV to say that Mistress Quickly is one character in Merry Wives and another in the three other plays. Of course, saying so IS a pretty credible PoV, but against it:

I'm doubtful we could produce evidence she was perceived that way in early performances;
The distinction between these two characters could equally be explained as retcon;
There are retcons within the three Hal plays, too; and
There are those critics who say that the Falstaff of Merry Wives is a different character from the Falstaff of the Hal plays, and the point is hotly contested.

I expect if we checked out all the sources, we'd find people arguing it both ways. AndyJones (talk) 13:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could it be that the clapping song tells of the exploits of three characters Three, six, nine, the goose drank wine, the monkey chewed tobacco on the street frauline, the line broke, the monkey got choked, they all came together in her little row boat. with connections of a Shakesperian wordsmithing nature

After the clap, we get "my mother toll me, if I was goody, then she would !buy me a rubber! Dolly. My Aunty told her I "kissed a soldier" now she won't buy me a rubber, Dolly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5pLlex7X7g 2604:6000:1513:4FFD:1A8:84DE:75B:C2A1 (talk) 21:59, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In Agreement With The Above[edit]

It seems hair-splitting to me to talk about Quickly in Merry Wives being a different character. She talks just like her "namesake" - and we here see the beginning of her courtship by Pistol, to whom she is married by Henry V. This seems to me to settle that Wives chronologically comes between Henry IV (in which that future marriage looks highly unlikely) and Henry V. That the feeling of everything is so different, and contradictions abound, is another - and highly subjective - matter.

Rogersansom (talk) 12:14, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Further agreement - what is the basis for treating a character with the same name, who speaks in the same way, who interacts with many of the same characters, and who was presumably played by the same actor, as a different character. At the very least, this seems highly debatable, and ought to require considerable sourcing before being states as fact. And the existence of a pseudo-disambiguation page impairs the creation of an actual decent article about the character. john k (talk) 22:51, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How she received her nickname[edit]

"Her name may be a pun on "quick lay", though "quick" also had the meaning of "alive", so it may imply "lively", which also commonly had a sexual connotation."

I admit that my posting like this may breach WP:FORUM, but I suspect Shakespeare was alluding to the fact that, once a brothel customer has been satisfied, he may be sent on his way, and the prostitute and madam will have a clear conscience; it is in the madam's interest to support the prostitute in encouraging him to orgasm, hence "quickly". For a visual representation of this phenomenon, one might see (or so I am led to believe) the last 10 or so minutes of the film The Happy Hooker. Harfarhs (talk) 11:53, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]