Talk:Mission: Impossible – Fallout/Archive 1

Archive 1

Franchise?

Where was this film made? Sorry for interrupting..I havent seen a film for ten years except for classics on you tube but I grew up near one of the centres of British film making and have been on the studio floor etc so I always take an interest. Now everyone knows that most American films are made in British Studios...not because its cheaper ..it isnt but because the product is better. The American and British/world media does everything to hide this but at least there is some reference somewhere to the British studios. Here for the first time there is NO reference to any studio yet these action films are almost entirely made in a studio with location material added in to provide various international background.....Yet with this film there is no information except on one website diary saying Leave the light on London we re coming home! Forgetting the location background stuff ,where exactly was this film made and put together? Surely we have a right to know .If it WASmade in London then tell us.....American lying will have reached new levels if you refuse to tell us...Sorry Chaps......Someone must know!!! We seem to be missing a franchise article to cover all the M:I properties. Mission: Impossible (franchise) should eb written to account for the missing coverage, so that the fictional universe of all the TV shows, videogames, novels, and films can be interrelated. A starting point can be the Mission: Impossible (disambiguation) page -- 70.51.200.162 (talk) 05:11, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

I think Mission: Impossible is the page that covers everything. --Kailash29792 (talk) 05:19, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

That article is the 1960s TV series article, and not a proper franchise article. It does have a franchise successors section, which should be severed off into a different article. -- 70.51.200.162 (talk) 04:57, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

To Anonymous user

If i may ask why did you delete what i added about the trailer release date? T.Youssef (talk) 02:21, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Not the anon, but I agree with the removal, because it's unsourced trivia, and because the sentence was so poorly written that it was an absolutely embrassing inclusion. Words that should be capitalized were not while words that shouldn't be were. It was terrible. oknazevad (talk) 11:37, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Runtime

The runtime was changed but both AMC (the source given) and BBFC (a reliable source recommended by Template:Infobox film) say the runtime is 147 minutes so would someone please revert from 148 minutes back to the previously correct version which said 147 minutes. -- 109.77.248.175 (talk) 13:06, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

In this edit the runtime was changed without any explanation by an anonymous editor. It should even still be possible to simply revert it. -- 109.77.248.175 (talk) 15:13, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Protected edit request 3 August 2018

Prisonermonkeys here. Forgot my password, so I'm posting from an IP. There is an error in the plot write-up that needs to be corrected. The current version reads like this:

"The two then fight on a cliff edge, where Walker is eventually killed by a winch. All Ethan can do is lay on the cliff edge, while Luther, Ilsa, and Benji deactivate the second bomb back at the camp."

The first sentence should read like this instead:

"The two fight on a cliff edge, and Walker is dragged to his death by the falling helicopter."

It's not clear if the winch hook actually kills him (though it is likely). If it didn't kill him, the fall certainly did.

The wording also suggests that the two bombs are defused in sequence when the film establishes that they must be disarmed simultaneously lest the other detonate; they each act as the other's failsafe. However, there is a bigger issue: the film clearly shows Hunt with the detonator key in his mouth. When the bombs are defused and the screen cuts to white, the next shot shows Hunt om the cliff face and the key is clearly visible. It's not clear whether Hunt or the IMF team stopped the bombs, but the current wording of the article clearly implies he is powerless to do anything while the team disarm the bombs in sequence. This is clearly wrong. As such, the second sentence should read:

"Ethan recovers the detonator key, deactivating the bombs' failsafe. Cut off from him, Luther, Benji, Ilsa and Julia simultaneously disarm the bombs in the camp."

I appreciate that this might cause issues with the 700-word limit, but it is far more accurate than what is in the article. 1.144.107.135 (talk) 10:08, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Also, it's been ages since I had to request an edit to a protected article, so I can't remember if there's a template I'm supposed to add here. I'll tag @TropicAces since he's a regular just in case. 1.144.107.135 (talk) 10:11, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

I reworded it. Left it a little vague and general, it’s not really overly important *how* he dies, and this should hopefully avoid future confusion/debate. TropicAces (talk) 12:02, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

@TropicAces — thanks for that. It was really a secondary concern, though. I think the line about Hunt being powerless really needs to be changed, though. 1.144.107.135 (talk) 12:26, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh didn’t really even see that. Yeah, that seems useless, I changed it. TropicAces (talk) 12:31, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

@Tropic Aces — I've gone through and tweaked bits and pieces mostly to tidy up the grammar:

Two years after the capture of Syndicate leader Solomon Lane, the remains of his organization have reformed into a terrorist group known as the Apostles. Ethan Hunt is assigned a mission to intercept the sale of three stolen plutonium cores to the Apostles and their leader, who is known by the alias John Lark. The mission fails when Ethan chooses to save Luther Stickell's life and the plutonium is taken by the Apostles. The team captures and interrogates nuclear weapons expert Nils Debruuk, who has been working with the Apostles to build three portable nuclear weapons. Ethan, Luther and Benji Dunn trick him into believing attacks have occurred on religious sites in Rome, Jerusalem and Mecca to obtain information on Lark and the Apostles.

Newly-appointed CIA Director Erica Sloane instructs Special Activities Division operative August Walker to shadow Ethan as he attempts to retrieve the plutonium. Ethan and Walker infiltrate a fundraiser party in Paris where they believe an arms dealer known as the White Widow will broker the sale of the plutonium to Lark. Ethan and Walker identify Lark, but he is killed when Ilsa Faust intervenes. Ethan impersonates Lark and meets the White Widow to complete the mission.

Agents of the Apostles have been sent to kill Lark and the White Widow; Ethan escapes with her and she orders him to extract Solomon Lane from an armoured convoy moving through Paris in exchange for the plutonium. Ethan receives one of the plutonium cores as a payment in kind for the mission. Ethan and his team attack the convoy and loyalties of the team are tested as Ilsa reveals that MI6 want her to kill Lane to prove her loyalty. A chase ensues across Paris, with Ethan avoiding the White Widow's forces, the police and Ilsa. The mission to extract Lane is successful and White Widow instructs the team to deliver Lane to London. Walker passes doctored evidence to Sloane suggesting that Ethan is John Lark.

At a safehouse in London, IMF Secretary Alan Hunley confronts Ethan with Walker's evidence. Ethan denies being Lark and incapacitates Hunley to continue the mission. Walker is tasked with monitoring Lane and unwittingly reveals himself to be the real John Lark. The IMF team relay this to Sloane, who instructs a CIA team detain Lane, Walker, and the IMF team. The CIA team has been infiltrated by the Apostles and attack the IMF instead. Walker kills Hunley in the ensuing fight. Aided by Benji, Luther and Ilsa, Ethan tracks Walker across the city. Walker threatens the life of Ethan's estranged wife Julia and escapes with Lane. Lane's plan for the weapons is to detonate them over a glacier in Kashmir, contaminating the water supply of Pakistan, India, and China. With a third of its population affected, the world will descend into anarchy from which Lane hopes a new world order will arise. Benji analyses Debruuk's design and learns that the two remaining nuclear weapons are synchronized with each other as a failsafe; if one is defused, the other will detonate. However, the failsafe can be circumvented by removing the fuse from the detonator once the countdown has begun.

The bombs are hidden in a medical camp as the abundance of radiology equipment disguises their radioactive signature. Walker arranges for Julia and her new husband to be onsite to place further pressure on Ethan. Lane activates the weapons and gives the detonator to Walker. Ethan pursues Walker in a helicopter as Benji, Luther and Ilsa remain on the ground to find the weapons. Luther finds the first bomb and is assisted by Julia in understanding its inner workings. Ilsa and Benji find the second weapon and fight with Lane, subduing him and securing the second bomb. Ethan and Walker engage in a helicopter chase and Ethan uses his helicopter to ram Walker's aircraft out of the sky. The two fight on a cliff edge, where Hunt eventually gets the upper hand and kills Walker. Ethan gets control of the detonator while Luther, Ilsa, and Benji simultaneously deactivate the bombs.

In the aftermath, the remaining two cores are safely recovered. Sloane hands Lane over to MI6 through the White Widow, which earns exonerates Ilsa. Ethan recovers from his injuries with the help of Julia while the rest of the team joins him in victory.

Forgetting my password is damn frustrsting. 1.144.107.135 (talk) 12:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

That should be @TropicAces. 1.144.107.135 (talk) 12:57, 3 August 2018 (UTC)