Talk:Martin 4-0-4

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Article reassessed and graded as start class. This article barely qualifies under Military History. Operation use by the USN and USCG really needs to be expanded.--dashiellx (talk) 13:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

Just to note due to the recent attempt to change the name, the FAA Type Certificate (link added in article) shows the aircraft as the Martin 404 that is 4 zero 4 not 4 capital O 4. Need to provide a reference that the Federal Aviation Authority got it wrong. Thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 21:15, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the same way the Piper Cherokee is a PA-28 and the Bellanca Decathlon is an 8KCAB, the Martin 4-O-4 is a 404P (no hyphens) if it was the prototype, a 404E if it was originally built for Eastern, a 404T if it was originally built for TWA, and a 404C if it was originally built for the Coast Guard. Unlike Factory Model Numbers 202 and 303, there was never a just-plain 404. See http://www.marylandaviationmuseum.org/pdf/404_spec.pdf. I lived <30 miles from Martin State Airport in Maryland, home of the Martin Museum. I asked the oldies up there about the name; they told me that Glenn Martin himself decided that if people were going to call the airplane "two-oh-two" it may as well have that name. That continued with the 3-O-3 and the 4-O-4. I got pretty much the same story when I visited the Airline History Museum (formerly Save-a-Connie) in Kansas City. See http://www.airlinehistorymuseum.com/martin.htm. My dad worked for Eastern, and later for Southern. While he was at Southern I was given my very own copy of a Martin flight manual, and it most definitely said 4-O-4 (not 4O4 or 404) on the cover. People at both airlines just called them Martins.JScottJ (talk) 02:40, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Huh, not to be obtuse, but this is what you got? FWiW Bzuk (talk) 03:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC).[reply]