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Unfortunate that the person who wanted this removed chose to edit war and resort to personal insults instead of discussing this. In the interest of preventing further edit warring a discussion seems in order. I added the content about it not being as inexpensive as planned, and I'm quite certain the source cited backs that up. I checked the part about it being all white and the source cited also backs that up. We're not expressing an opinion on the rights and wrongs here, just reporting the facts as established by reliable sources, and this all seems properly cited to my eye. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:46, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Did you ever think the "source" was just making it up? Mariemont wasn't incorporated so had no government or ability to be a sundown town. The "source" (2006) claims the school is all white. I was there from 1977 to 1984 and had black classmates. The school district has never just served Mariemont and has always been affordable to blacks. And the "source" is choosing to ignore the area as a whole to push his politics. Next to Mariemont is Madisonville, a historic black community predating Mariemont and with it's own schools. Blacks have always preferred to choose living there than in just as affordable neighboring communities served by the Mariemont system. This may come as a shocker to you, but blacks have free will too. Chronos45227 (talk) 07:34, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I grew up in Terrace Park and graduated from MHS, so I know perfectly well what it was like there, (in fact, given the time frame you mention you almost certainly went to school with my older cousin who stayed with us for a while.) but our own opinions and observations are meaningless here. What matters is what is already written in relaible sources. The claim in the article about Mariemont being exclusively white is about Mariemont when it was founded, in 1923, when outright institutional racism was common and indeed fairly widely accepted, as opposed to the 70's and 80's when you and I were in school there. The book was written by noted historian and author James W. Loewen, so no, I don't think he just made it up. The part about rents being higher than expected is sourced to "Cincinnati, The Queen City, Bicentennial Edition",published by the Cincinnati Historical Society, so again, a pretty solid source. The other data about race is sourced to the census bureau, generally considered the gold standard for demographic data of this nature. This is how things work on Wikipedia, we go by what the sources say. It isn't a value judgement on current or former residents of the area, it's simply an established fact that Mariemont, Terrace Park, and Fairfax are all between 95-98% white people. (as to Madisonville, it is indeed much, much older, and was incorporated into Cincinnati in 1911, so kids there would go to Cincinnati public schools) Beeblebrox (talk) 20:55, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
