Talk:Manfred Symphony

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The title is sometimes given as "Manfred, Symphony after Lord Byron". Are there differing versions on different scores? Schissel | Sound the Note! 21:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Going to have to look at the score[edit]

I was fairly sure it was in B flat minor (B-moll, B-flat minor, not H-moll, B minor)... despite the listing here and in the List of symphonies by key Schissel | Sound the Note! 15:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Patriarchal?[edit]

Is this a typo for "pastoral"?RayJohnstone (talk) 07:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Soviet version[edit]

I once heard a performance of Manfred conducted by Verbitsky. The final movement was, I was told, a special (cheery?) version for Soviet consumption. It was certainly different. Can anyone enlarge on this?RayJohnstone (talk) 07:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There has indeed been a Soviet version in which the loud ending of the first movement is substituted for the quiet ending of the finale. It was done this way at the 1992 BBC Proms when played by the St. Petersburg Philharmonic under Yuri Termikanov.Philipson55 (talk) 09:15, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Categorisation[edit]

Although listed among the symphonies at List of compositions by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky#Symphonies, there's a note: Tchaikovsky labelled this work "a symphonic poem in four movements".

Is this true? If so, and given it’s not numbered as a symphony, we need to say some words about why it’s nowadays categorised under the symphonies and not under the symphonic poems. -- JackofOz (talk) 07:38, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Only?[edit]

The article today says: "The Manfred Symphony is the only programmatic symphonic work by Tchaikovsky in more than one movement."

I'm not clear on what this is saying (and nothing like this is mentioned in the referenced footnote for this paragraph). Is it claiming that "Swan Lake" (for example) is non-programmatic, non-symphonic, or only one movement? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:602:A080:1240:A583:1B9:AEEE:70E8 (talk) 03:25, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]