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the argument that the group is notable is debatable, notabale to whom? see pages: Korean Diaspora, Armenian Diaspora, American Diaspora (no numbers of how many Americans are in the diaspora either) but their pages do not exist. Furthermore Malawi has a long history of migrant worker meaning the the Malawian diaspora reached far in Africa, and abroad. Malawi was seen as a supplier of labor in the region.

To simply say that the group has to meet some requirement in order to have a page is highly problematic when one sees other groups (mentioned above) what makes the American, Armenian , Korean, Jewish, Somali Diaspora more notable then the Malawian one? This claim is highly ethnocentric. To say that references are needed, yes, I get that.--MsTingaK (talk) 19:16, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Notable according to the rules of Wikipedia. Note this is not a judgement on the individual people who make up the Malawian diaspora, but rather on whether the subject has enough reliable, independent, published sources to allow it to meet Wikipedia's guidelines on notability. Please read the guidelines linked to, and make sure you find adequate sources to show that this subject is notable. Any subject that is notable will have information published about it, so this should be possible. Good luck, Sparthorse (talk) 19:48, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, understood, I still hold that ethnocentrism play a role in the subjective 'notability guideline'. In the non-profit world, the brain drain and Malawi's example of Malawian doctors in the diaspora in Manchester, U.K. has been used as a classic recent day example of the extent of the brain drain and has been repeated several times by independent sources. Malawis dispora influence in Southern African mines - gold diamond, etc.. was vital to the south african aparthied govt, and the presence of a malawian diaposra there influenced foreign policy. Likewise the Malawian diaspora has made a hue impact in Zambia and Zimbabwe ... well unless you dont think impact on Zambia, Zimbabwe,South Africa history, politics and economics doesnt matter? (this is the ethno centiricm part). Had they made the same impact on the U.S would notability have been somehow different?because for some diappora ie. Armenina diaspora page, from someone else point of view, it may not have an impact on their culture and they can ask for more proof of notability. In any case, I was just stressing my point here, but I have updated the content in the article nonetheless so that it does meets the Wiki 'notability' guidelines thanks for your input though --MsTingaK (talk) 20:29, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's a ridiculous and unfounded accusation. Please assume good faith and comment on content not on your assumed motivation for other editors. I find your thinly veiled accusation of racism deeply offensive. Sparthorse (talk) 20:33, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I didnt say anything about racism, I said ethnocentrism, and thats exactly what I meant, so there was no veiling intended. If I wanted to say racism, I would have, but thats not what I means. I merely trying to highlight that some cultural relativism needs to by employed here because what is deemed important depends on where you stand in the world and what country affects events in your own. In fact, I can say that I find your trivialization of my argument into nothing more then 'a race based' argument rather then one based on anthropology and/or standpoint theory (which is rooted in sociology) as one to be deeply offensive --MsTingaK (talk) 21:25, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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