Talk:Magdalena Andersson

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Requested move 1 October 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 21:14, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Magdalena Andersson (Social Democrat) → Magdalena Andersson – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:2DABS. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 20:31, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:19, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Neveselbert, DrVogel, and BarrelProof: queried move request Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:21, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think this may need discussion, because I can imagine someone from the other party saying that their one is the main one. Dr. Vogel (talk) 21:02, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Social Democrat article gets more than ten times the number of page views as the Moderate, and the Moderate's article is a 3-sentence microstub. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:45, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. She is the current Minister of Finance, and is likely to become the next Prime Minister, which makes her by far the more prominent compared to her namesake. --Marbe166 (talk) 17:10, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support.. The Social Democratic politician is far more prominent. SaintGeorg (talk) 08:44, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Cilidus (talk) 11:54, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Even before Andersson's nomination she was much more famous than the moderate governor (landshövding) of the same name, considering that she has been the finance minister since 2014. In any case I do not believe this distinction is necessary going forward. Lochglasgowstrathyre (talk) 10:53, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Prime Minister?[edit]

I know Andersson was elected as prime minister, however, she resigned within hours. So is she "technically" considered a prime minister or no? Was she sworn in? Snickers2686 (talk) 19:11, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, she did not have time to take office. There was to be a cabinet meeting on the 26, where she would have succeeded Löfven. Sjö (talk) 19:14, 24 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's a sticky wicket ... if she wasn't officially sworn in by whatever the Swedes do in their gov't, I would say 'not.' 50.111.58.135 (talk) 02:42, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

She was Prime Minister, regardless of the length of time.

Andersson has stated "I have told the speaker that I wish to resign"

Notice the keyword "resign" which implies that she was Prime Minister. Many credible sources, including BBC News, CNN, Politico, CNBC, The Guardian, Independent, etc. have also pointed out that she was Prime Minister for several hours. Bryanscion (talk) 19:26, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong, it was clarified by the speaker in the press conference today, she did not assume the office, that is done after the council with the King, which was to be held tomorrow. --Marbe166 (talk) 19:46, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a citation for your point Marbe166? I am not doubting you but would like to see a citation as I could not find the information you stated in an article. Jurisdicta (talk) 03:43, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1], [2], the sections Var Magdalena Andersson någonsin statsminister? and Vem leder Sverige?, [3]. Sjö (talk) 06:12, 26 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

sorry you were shown to be completely incorrect, Bryanscion ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.58.135 (talk) 15:34, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wording issue perhaps?[edit]

I noting a certain phrase, "the only Nordic country to have never had a woman serve as head of government". I'd like to quickly direct you to both Gro Harlem Brundtland and Erna Solberg. Both of them were Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Norway. As far as I'm aware, Norway IS a Nordic country. Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but I feel this needs to be fixed. Perhaps "first female to serve as head of government for Sweden"? I know she didn't actually become Prime Minister, but still think it needs to be fixed. J-Man11 (talk) 04:21, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think that you mean that the phrase in the article is incorrect since Norway had a female PM, right? Well, that's what the phrase means: all the other Nordic countries have had female prime ministers. I believe that it is relevant to the article that Sweden is the only Nordic country that never had a female PM, so the phrase is fine as it is. Sjö (talk) 06:03, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the re-wording, just was confused reading it, and I'm sure others who aren't too into the political world would gloss right over it too.. J-Man11 (talk) 06:15, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

first female head of government[edit]

would an absolute monarch like Ulrika Eleonora not be considered Sweden's first female head of government (prior to her becoming a constitutional monarch). — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharlesViBritannia (talk • contribs) 14:58, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is noted in the first paragraph, but maybe it should be repeated: "Andersson would have been Sweden's first female head of government since universal suffrage was introduced in 1921." (note the "since universal suffrage") 185.169.74.70 (talk) 16:48, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, it is noted in many news articles that she was Sweden's first PM. See https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59459733. Jurisdicta (talk) 05:26, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If were taking obama's article. It should be laid out in front of the article, ie obama first african american was mentioned on top but her gender is neglected her. 125.165.108.8 (talk) 06:54, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Appointed by Carl XVI Gustaf?[edit]

Regarding the sentence: "On 30 November, Andersson and her government were appointed by King Carl XVI Gustaf.", Carl XVI Gustaf's page indicates that "As a result, he no longer performs many of the duties normally accorded to a head of state, such as the formal appointment of the prime minister", which seems like an inconsistency. Could someone with more knowledge of how the Swedish system works clear this up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmrmaxwell (talk • contribs) 07:17, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, kind of but not really appointed by the King. The change of government takes place at a Council of State headed by the King who announces that the new government has taken over, Riksdagen: Forming a government, but the Riksdag appoints the PM. I think it could be rephrased but I can't come up with a better text right now. Sjö (talk) 08:54, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed ("Appointed" was way off the mark.) --SergeWoodzing (talk) 21:44, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Her first name[edit]

I think we should remove Eva as her first name till we have a solid primary or secondary evidence, rather than stray news mentions (who I suspect mentioned so after seeing it on Wikipedia), Google searched didn't help me sadly to find a sufficient source https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Eva+Magdalena+Andersson%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=eva+magdalena+andersson+site%3Agovernment.se Appu (talk) 08:53, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've inserted the reference to the Swedish population register that the Swedish wikipedia uses. While I obviously don't have a CD-ROM from 1990 handy, you can easily corroborate the information on other sites that make use of the data, e.g. ratsit.se. Hope that helps. EditorInTheRye (talk) 09:24, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lead Image RfC[edit]

Which image looks better for the infobox? I'm favoring option A because it has a better quality and focus on Andersson. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 11:22, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(Option A; 2022; current)
(Option B; 2021)
(Option C)

She looks the same in every photo, so why argue? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:17, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Option C is better where she looks into the camera. --Marbe166 (talk) 17:07, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]