Talk:Luol Deng

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Nationality?[edit]

Luol is listed as having as many as four different nationalities, and three are confirmed in Sudan, United Kingdom and United States of America. Shouldn't his "nationality" comply with this?

I don't know of him having more than three. Basketball110 (talk) 01:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty sure on the infobox where it has Nationality it should read British as opposed to United Kingdom.Londo06 14:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Date of departure from Sudan[edit]

There are sources straight from Luol's mouth putting his age at three, four, five and six when his family departed from Sudan. Unless someone has an authoritative source (more than Luol himself?), we should leave it as 'at a young age' or something similar. Gorilla Jones 11:35, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject class rating[edit]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 06:41, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for someone to nominate this article for GA status[edit]

Does anyone else think this article is up to GA status?--Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 00:24, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Luol Deng's Number with the Cavaliers[edit]

[s]The most recent version of this article states that Luol Deng is number 9 (in the infobox) with the Cavaliers. He is actually number 8, according to an article by K.C. Johnson of the Chicago Tribune.[/s] Please disregard. Other articles state that Deng will actually wear number 9. 69.47.83.222 (talk) 17:35, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"2011-2102 season" and "2012-2013 season" subsection headings[edit]

Hi,

I'm not sure why it's necessary to have Deng's 2011-2012 season and 2012-2013 season subsections listed as 2011-2012: All-Star season and 2012-2013: Second All-Star season. Sure being selected for the NBA All Star team is notable, even more so the first time around, but this seems to be setting a weird precedent. For example, Carmelo Anthony, which follows a similar format to the Deng article, is a 7-time AS, but his subsection headings do not read All-Star season, Second All-Star season, Third All-Star season, etc,. etc. I'm a Bulls' fan and a Deng fan so I'm not trying to belittle his accomplishments. Labeling things as such just seems a little out of place. What will happen the next time Deng makes the All-Star team? Will that subsection heading be YYYY- YYYY: Third All-Star season? - Marchjuly (talk) 04:52, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think that if you want to list Deng's career by seasons, then you kind of have to stick to that format and leave out anything else. On the other hand, if you want to list it by achievements or periods, then you need to get rid of the season by season stuff and do something like they've done on LeBron James, Paul Pierce, etc. Combining the two styles doesn't seems a bit unbalanced in my opinion. - Marchjuly (talk) 05:47, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Miami Heat?[edit]

This edit gave this source which states his agents confirmed he is going to the Miami Heat. However, it is not on http://www.nba.com/heat/news. We wait until it's official, right? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 20:35, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@EvergreenFir: Correct. He has agreed to sign [1], but until the Miami Heat officially announce Luol Deng, he's not a Heat player. DaHuzyBru (talk) 02:24, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It is now official. http://www.nba.com/heat/news/heat-signs-luol-deng Charwinger21 (talk) 22:30, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Charwinger21 - Thanks! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:04, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Likely Story[edit]

The article says "He and Walton mutually decided that it was better for him than playing meaningless minutes in garbage time", to explain why a healthy, highly paid Deng sat out an entire season-- in fact he wasn't even on the bench; he was in the locker room, watching on TV and cycling while the game was in progress, to stay in shape. The quote above represents the party line, the official explanation, but does ANYONE believe it?

I've been a Laker fan since the Wilt Chamberlain time, but I'm so disgusted with the organization's behavior over the last six years or more that now I'm a Warrior fan. Over six years, the Lakers have had the worst record in the league and not even made the playoffs once, while dreaming of past and future glory. They consistently benched or got rid of good veteran players; for instance at one point Lou Williams was probably their best and most consistent player, and showed an unwelcome knack for winning games, so they traded him. The idea was that young guys like DeAngelo Russell, Larry Nance Jr. and Julius Randle had to have all the playing time so they could develop. In fact, first of all it's very hard for those guys to develop on the worst team in the league without veteran leadership, and secondly almost all of those guys are gone now; Brandon Ingram is the sole exception. I thought this was just wrongheadedness and stupidity on the executives' part; they've made idiotic mistakes before, like firing Phil Jackson after he won three championships, firing him again after he won another two championships and was in the finals three times, and then hastily backing out of a deal to hire him a third time. (I could go on).

Here's the point, though. Of course this is all my opinion, one fan's take, and that's not what we're here to talk about. But I no longer think it was just wrong thinking or stupidity; I think the team basically, deliberately tanked for all that time they were in the cellar. I understand they can't always be on top, but they really didn't have to be that bad for that long. I think they were deliberately finishing in the lottery every year in order to eventually land a superstar, which they eventually did. The atrocious way they treated Luol Deng is a shocking story, and the idea that it was a mutual decision and somehow there were no minutes available for a very good, highly paid, veteran player is absurd, patently unbelievable. They couldn't get rid of him because he was overpaid (at one point, still trying to be competetive they had to overpay free agents to get them on board, Timofey Mozgov being another example).

This is a point of view, and you can call it a conspiracy theory if you want, but I don't think the ridiculous cover story should be presented as the gospel truth. I'd like to see a reference to a story about what was really going on, though I don't know of one, and at least we could say something like "The official explanation was that..." instead of presenting this transparent lie as a fact.Wood Monkey 20:00, 6 December 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neurodog (talk • contribs)

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