Talk:Lobster-tailed pot helmet

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Article name[edit]

I have an extensive library of books on armour and 17th century warfare and none of them use the term 'capeline'. For English helmets the term 'lobster tail pot' is most used, 'three-bar pot' occasionally substituted, for Continental examples the word 'zischagge' is used. For the hidden skullcap the term 'secrete' is usual. The title of this article should be changed and a separate article on the secrete created. Urselius (talk) 17:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Change of name[edit]

I have changed the name of this article as outlined above.

I intend to improve the text and introduce more scholarly citations, I have plenty of suitable books, in the near future. Urselius (talk) 10:39, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done, at least to some extent. Urselius (talk) 20:10, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Capeline[edit]

"The French term capeline was also used for this helmet, however, usage of this word was not precise.Capeline was indiscriminately used to denote various types of hat, and helmets other than the lobster-tailed pot."

I'd be pleased to see some evidence for either part of this claim.

Here.

A Capeline or Flare are hat bodies used to make hats with medium to large brims. The difference between a Capeline and a Flare is that a Capeline has a definitive Crown and Brim compared to a Flare which has a crown which merges out into a brim (like the flared jeans from the 60's and 70's!). Baxter Hart & Abraham glossary of terms

Kortoso (talk) 06:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article was originally titled "Capeline", but I never found much evidence for its use so it can go - it can remain gone. Urselius (talk) 13:03, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]