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Pictures[edit]

Hi everyone, I've added pictures of three World Heritage Sites in Mexico, I think we all should add more pictures of some of the other World Heritage Sites belonging to each country. Peace :D Dragon Lost In Mexico 02:45, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

layout[edit]

I'm thinking this would be better in a table format. Therefore the person can choose to reorganize by name, location, etc. User:Leppi 07:26, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is anyone sure that the Statue of Liberty is in New York? I've heard New Jersey as well as a separate island not in either. I tried to find a copy of the case, but couldn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.227.254 (talk) 23:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to the official World Heritage site, it is listed in New York. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:03, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Liberty Island is within the boundary of Jersey City (hence New Jersey), but the island comes under the jurisdiction of New York City. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.79.102.31 (talk) 10:33, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mexico[edit]

Mexico the third in the world? That's not true. The first one is Italy; the second, Spain; Then it would follow France or Germany, I'm not sure; after both, it comes China and finally Mexico would be in the sixth place, I beleave. So we could say that Mexico is the second country after China that has more Heritage sites out of Europe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.179.25.56 (talk) 00:25, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ralph Edwards, Lonesome Lake & Trumpeter Swans[edit]

A short few years ago a massive fire in west-central BC, near Hunlen Falls and I'm not sure whether inside or just next to Tweedsmuir South Provincial Park, burned out the cabin and possessions which had been the location of the fieldwork of Ralph Edwards in his efforts to protect the survival of the trumpeter swan. I'm not sure whether it was Lonesome Lake that was the heritage site - which I thought was a UNESCO World Heritage Site - or some other landform/location in the immediate vicinity. Two notable books, one by Leland Stowe - Crusoe of Lonesome Lake - and another by Edwards' wife Frances - Ruffles on my Longjohns, a classic of "bush wife" literature - are connected with the local; documentarist Tony Wade also produced a doc, The Crusoe of Lonesome Lake....I just happened to be doing geographical stubs in the area, which includes Hunlen Falls, one of Canada's highest, and noticed Trumpeter Mountain and Lonesome Lake in a proximity search around Hunlen, and remembered the burned-out-by-fire story. As far as I know the trumpeters still return every year, though Edwards' cabin was destroyed....I don't have time to do up a detailed history and dont' know the story well, but it's a famous one in BC. What other classification might it have been if not a UNESCO WHS? Anyone here recognize this tale?Skookum1 (talk) 03:04, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Greenland[edit]

Isn't Greenland in Europe? Sweetie candykim (talk) 13:02, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, Greenland is in North America. Reywas92 ^Talk 20:37, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maps[edit]

The current map is missing at least two UNESCO WHS: Jesuit Mission of São Miguel das Missões (Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil) and Brazilian Atlantic Islands (Fernando de Noronha and Atol das Rocas). User:MarioBrazil 18:42, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I requested comments because the edits were getting a little heated. The discussion is over whether this list of World Heritage Sites should include maps of the sites as they are currently presented. Other possible presentations are the African, European, Asia-Pacific, and Arab lists. My opinion is the same as it was in August. Chouji Ochiai (talk) 14:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey everyone, can we talk about the maps being added to the site? I've seen these put up on the Europe list and I feel that they add more clutter than clarity. I would much rather see a table for this page along the lines of Africa's list.--Chouji Ochiai (talk) 03:57, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I share your concern. I'm beginning a drive to get all of these lists to FL, taking the same layout as the African list (credit goes to User:Arsenikk for that one). People can help out by attempting to replicate the table format in that article to here and other WHS lists; that would be very appreciated. _EricLeb⁰¹ (Page | Talk) 04:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This page is a list of geographic locations, maps of where they are is a handy complement to this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.76.159.191 (talk) 20:50, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I really like the maps. Until the lists are converted into a single table like the Africa page, they should be kept. Reywas92^Talk 16:09, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a list of geographic locations but a list of World Heritage Sites, i.e. of culturally or naturally important places. Of course they are located somewhere but in my opinion the focus should be on what they are (i.e. images) rather than where they are. Also agree that eventually the list should be converted to table format like the Africa list or the List of World Heritage in Danger. bamse (talk) 00:22, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've got to say it's not 100% clear what the RFC is regarding, so you may want to clear that up. On the subject of Maps Vs Images, I've got to agree with Bamse. I've looked at the different World Heritage lists and the Africa one is clearly superior. As Bamse explains, it's WHAT the sites which is important, not WHERE they are. I wouldn't have a problem with a large world map showing all 911, or defining "the Americas" area and the sites in it, but to have one per country does not make for an easy to read article. Worm 09:28, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re RFC description: Roger. Chouji Ochiai (talk) 05:03, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed the maps are not the primary concern of this article, which is why they are a complement, not a substitute. Some people will absorb the list sites from a table, others from a map, and having both will cater to both types of people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.76.159.191 (talk) 00:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think a good example of how these maps can be used disruptively is the Mexico map as it is right now. This map is trying to compensate for the high concentration of sites in central Mexico with a large map, but those sites are still obscure and the map is clearly interfering with the presentation of the list itself. If we include maps on this page, they should at least present information rather than obscure it. Chouji Ochiai (talk) 05:17, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree the current layout with maps of different sizes is distracting both visually and geographically (sense of scale and location). I disagree though that geographic location wouldn't be important, however there is no need for the current level of detail in this page, since maps appear in the individual articles. The role of the page is to provide an overview for the continent, hence I could image a map of the Americas (or separately North, Central/Caribbean and South if the list is also restructured) indicating the sites as dots without label. That would at least give an overview of the geographic distribution of WHS on the continent. Different colours could be used for cultural, natural and mixed sites. --Elekhh (talk) 05:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good plan! If the sites/dots get to dense on an America(s) map, one could also think of just color coding the countries, e.g. countries with 1-3 sites in yellow, with 4-8 sites in orange and with nine or more sites in red. (just an example, haven't thought much about good intervals) bamse (talk) 10:34, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I started to convert the list to table format. Any help with it is very welcome. A map of all sites in the list will eventually be available through {{GeoGroupTemplate}}. bamse (talk) 11:36, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In case of expansion[edit]

If somebody wants to expand this list into table form like it was done with the Africa list, an old revision of the List of World Heritage Sites in Danger (particularly the "Description" column) might be useful. bamse (talk) 11:15, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comments[edit]

There is discussion on what should be included in this and other regional lists of World Heritage Sites. Please voice your opinion on the issue here. Thank you. bamse (talk) 15:40, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And there is now a discussion to finalise this here. Please join in. Nightw 15:26, 10 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Goal list[edit]

Requested. This is a reference for what should be included on this list, per pending discussion. I count 164 sites. * = Trans-border site (don't count them twice), !!END!! = endangered site.

Goal list

Argentina - 8 (Los Glaciares, Jesuit Missions of the Guaranis *, Iguazu National Park, Cueva de las Manos, Río Pinturas, Península Valdés, Ischigualasto / Talampaya Natural Parks, Jesuit Block and Estancias of Córdoba, Quebrada de Humahuaca

Barbados - 1 (Historic Bridgetown and its Garrison)

Belize - 1 (Belize Barrier Reef Reserve System !!END!!)

Bolivia - 6 (City of Potosí, Jesuit Missions of the Chiquitos, Historic City of Sucre, Fuerte de Samaipata, Noel Kempff Mercado National Park, Tiwanaku: Spiritual and Political Centre of the Tiwanaku Culture)

Brazil - 18 (Historic Town of Ouro Preto, Historic Centre of the Town of Olinda, Jesuit Missions of the Guaranis *, Historic Centre of Salvador de Bahia, Sanctuary of Bom Jesus do Congonhas, Iguaçu National Park, Brasilia, Serra da Capivara National Park, Historic Centre of São Luís, Atlantic Forest South-East Reserves, Discovery Coast Atlantic Forest Reserves, Historic Centre of the Town of Diamantina, Central Amazon Conservation Complex 4, Pantanal Conservation Area, Brazilian Atlantic Islands: Fernando de Noronha and Atol das Rocas Reserves, Cerrado Protected Areas: Chapada dos Veadeiros and Emas National Parks, Historic Centre of the Town of Goiás, São Francisco Square in the Town of São Cristóvão)

Canada - 15 (L’Anse aux Meadows National Historic Site, Nahanni National Park, Dinosaur Provincial Park, Kluane / Wrangell-St Elias / Glacier Bay / Tatshenshini-Alsek *, Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump, SGang Gwaay, Wood Buffalo National Park, Canadian Rocky Mountain Parks, Historic District of Old Québec, Gros Morne National Park, Old Town Lunenburg, Waterton Glacier International Peace Park *, Miguasha National Park, Rideau Canal, Joggins Fossil Cliffs)

Chile - 5 (Rapa Nui National Park, Churches of Chiloé, Historic Quarter of the Seaport City of Valparaíso, Humberstone and Santa Laura Saltpeter Works, Sewell Mining Town)

Colombia - 7 (Port Fortresses and Group of Monuments Cartagena, Los Katíos National Park, Historic Centre of Santa Cruz de Mompox, National Archeological Park of Tierradentro, San Agustín Archaeological Park, Malpelo Fauna and Flora Sanctuary, Coffee Cultural Landscape of Colombia)

Costa Rica - 3 (Talamanca Range-La Amistad Reserves / La Amistad National Park *, Cocos Island National Park, Area de Conservación Guanacaste)

Cuba - 9 (Old Havana and its Fortifications, Trinidad and the Valley de los Ingenios, San Pedro de la Roca Castle, Santiago de Cuba, Desembarco del Granma National Park Viñales Valley, Archaeological Landscape of the First Coffee Plantations in the South-East of Cuba, Alejandro de Humboldt National Park, Urban Historic Centre of Cienfuegos, Historic Centre of Camagüey)

Dominica - 1 (Morne Trois Pitons National Park)

Dominican Republic - 1 (Colonial City of Santo Domingo)

Ecuador - 4 (City of Quito, Galápagos Islands, Sangay National Park, Historic Centre of Santa Ana de los Ríos de Cuenca)

El Salvador - 1 (Joya de Cerén Archaeological Site)

Greenland - 1 (Ilulissat Icefjord)

Guatemala - 3 (Antigua Guatemala, Tikal National Park, Archaeological Park and Ruins of Quirigua)

Haiti - 1 (National History Park – Citadel, Sans Souci, Ramiers)

Honduras - 2 (Maya Site of Copan, Río Plátano Biosphere Reserve !!END!!)

Mexico - 31 (Historic Centre of Mexico City and Xochimilco, Historic Centre of Oaxaca and Archaeological Site of Monte Albán, Historic Centre of Puebla, Pre-Hispanic City and National Park of Palenque, Pre-Hispanic City of Teotihuacan, Sian Ka'an, Historic Town of Guanajuato and Adjacent Mines, Pre-Hispanic City of Chichen-Itza, Historic Centre of Morelia, El Tajin: Pre-Hispanic City, Historic Centre of Zacatecas, Rock Paintings of the Sierra de San Francisco, Whale Sanctuary of El Vizcaino, Earliest 16th-Century Monasteries on the Slopes of Popocatepetl, Historic Monuments Zone of Querétaro, Pre-Hispanic Town of Uxmal, Hospicio Cabañas: Guadalajara, Archaeological Zone of Paquimé: Casas Grandes, Historic Monuments Zone of Tlacotalpan, Archaeological Monuments Zone of Xochicalco, Historic Fortified Town of Campeche, Ancient Maya City of Calakmul Campeche, Franciscan Missions in the Sierra Gorda of Querétaro, Luis Barragán House and Studio, Islands and Protected Areas of the Gulf of California, Agave Landscape and Ancient Industrial Facilities of Tequila, Central University City Campus of the Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México (UNAM), Monarch Butterfly Biosphere Reserve, Protective town of San Miguel and the Sanctuary of Jesús Nazareno de Atotonilco, Camino Real de Tierra Adentro, Prehistoric Caves of Yagul and Mitla in the Central Valley of Oaxaca)

Netherlands - 1 (Historic Area of Willemstad: Inner City and Harbour Curaçao)

Nicaragua - 2 (Ruins of León Viejo, León Cathedral)

Panama - 5 (Fortifications on the Caribbean Side of Panama: Portobelo-San Lorenzo, Darien National Park, Talamanca Range-La Amistad Reserves / La Amistad National Park *, Archaeological Site of Panamá Viejo and Historic District of Panamá, Coiba National Park and its Special Zone of Marine Protection)

Paraguay - 1 (Jesuit Missions of La Santísima Trinidad de Paraná and Jesús de Tavarangue)

Peru - 11 (City of Cuzco, Historic Sanctuary of Machu Picchu, Chavin (Archaeological Site), Huascarán National Park , Chan Chan Archaeological Zone, Manú National Park, Historic Centre of Lima 17, Río Abiseo National Park, Lines and Geoglyphs of Nasca and Pampas de Jumana, Historical Centre of the City of Arequipa, Sacred City of Caral-Supe)

Saint Kitts and Nevis - 1 (Brimstone Hill Fortress National Park)

Saint Lucia - 1 (Pitons Management Area)

Suriname - 2 (Central Suriname Nature Reserve, Historic Inner City of Paramaribo)

United Kingdom - 1 (Historic Town of St George and Related Fortifications)

United States of America - 21 (Mesa Verde National Park, Yellowstone National Park, Everglades National Park, Grand Canyon National Park, Independence Hall, Kluane / Wrangell-St Elias / Glacier Bay / Tatshenshini-Alsek *, Redwood National and State Parks, Mammoth Cave National Park, Olympic National Park, Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site, La Fortaleza and San Juan National Historic Site in Puerto Rico, Great Smoky Mountains National Park, Statue of Liberty, Yosemite National Park, Chaco Culture, Hawaii Volcanoes National Park, Monticello and the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, Pueblo de Taos, Carlsbad Caverns National Park, Waterton Glacier International Peace Park *, Papahānaumokuākea)

Uruguay - 1 (Historic Quarter of the City of Colonia del Sacramento)

Venezuela - 3 (Coro and its Port !!END!!, Canaima National Park, Ciudad Universitaria de Caracas)

Thanks. Could you add Chile? bamse (talk) 08:38, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hahaha, I seem to have missed it. Added. _EricLeb⁰¹ (Page | Talk) 17:32, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll compare when I am done with Mexico. bamse (talk) 18:24, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done up to "Description" column. I put Greenland in "Denmark" per UNESCO, otherwise the article's list matches the goal list. The following sites are arguably located in geographical Americas: two sites in Hawaii (Hawaii Volcanoes National Park, Papahānaumokuākea), Rapa Nui National Park, Ilulissat Icefjord; and might need to be moved to other list articles (Europe or Oceania). All other sites are either on or near mainland America. bamse (talk) 21:29, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This should be sorted between North America and South America. Than sort it out by individual Nation. Would be easier to find certain sites. Just saying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.217.82.253 (talk) 22:27, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Map Caption[edit]

The map is entitled "A map of World Heritage Sites in the Americas by state party". I don't understand what that means; is it an error? And if so what is it meant to say? Bagunceiro (talk) 21:10, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting this list into List of World Heritage Sites in North America and List of World Heritage Sites in South America[edit]

Anyone else think this list should be split into two separate ones for North America (Which would include the Caribbean and Central America) and South America? After all, Europe, Asia and Africa aren't combined into Euroafrasia on the List of World Heritage Sites, so why should North America and South America be any different? Not to mention North America and South America already have separate lists of countries, so it doesn't really make any sense for there to be only one list of World Heritage Sites for both. Would probably make it easier to read through and less cluttered, too. 2600:8802:500:EF00:3891:5B02:3E7A:71D3 (talk) 07:06, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, yes I do. I'm not sure if we're allowed to do it though. Info2Learn (talk) 17:29, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]