Talk:List of symphony orchestras

Order

Should this list be in alphabetical or some other order? Shawnc 14:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I think so. It looks as if most of the countries already have alphabetized lists. I doubt it needs to follow the "greater notability" convention that dab lists use. My 2¢, anyway.  ◉ ghoti 11:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

The Jakarta Symphony Orchestra

Anybody know if Jakarta Symphony Orchestra and The Jakarta Symphony (List_of_symphony_orchestras#Indonesia) are actually different entities? I can't find any press about either name that would seem to distinguish them.  ◉ ghoti 11:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

South America

I see only listings for Brazil. What about the rest of South America?

Far too many redlinks

(Diff prior to the mass-deletion of redlinks for future consideration/reference. -- Quiddity (talk) 18:53, 10 September 2009 (UTC))

I find it highly doubtful that the majority of these will get their own articles, so I'm removing them. If and when an orchestra gets an article, that would be a good time to add it. Dlabtot (talk) 16:50, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Here [1] are some resources for the Japanese orchestras at least.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:55, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

These are links to the 'official web pages' of various orchestras. This type of link would be appropriate in the WP:EL section of an article about that orchestra, but they are not reliable, third-party publications that could be used to satisfy our WP:verifiability policy. Dlabtot (talk) 23:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Now you see, there's your misunderstanding. The "official website" of an organisation (band, musician, artist, company etc) is a primary source and can be used to verify information about the organisation. Quite often, the only place you are going to get some information is from the official publication. What it can't be used for is evidence of notability - that does have to come from reliable secondary sources such as reviews of performances or recordings. This resource verifies that the orchestras concerned actually exist, which is all that is required for this list. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:12, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I disagree with your interpretation of our polices. This is not, by the way, a list of all symphony orchestras that exist. Nevertheless, I'd like to hear the interpretation of our policies that says it is ok to simply remove {{cn}} or {{unreferenced}} tags rather than providing references for the challenged material. Dlabtot (talk) 23:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict)::::Ah, but I'm on with the references. Here's one for the Century Orchestra Osaka[2] This orchestra also got a great write up for its debut performance in Boston [3]. What I'll do is redlink the orchestras that I can find some reference to (ie demonstrate they exist). The ones left probably ought to go as being unverifiable.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:26, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, then. Dlabtot (talk) 23:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

• Fontana Philharmonic [4] official website
• Hamamatsu Phil [5] official website
• Hyogo Performing Arts Centre Orchestra [6]English [7]Nipponese
• Japan Sinfonia [8] official website [9] this article is about their founder
• Kansai Phil [10] official website [11] write up [12] Naxos back catalogue
• New Philharmonic, Chiba (not Philharmony) [13][14] couple of mentions on the local government site for Chiba
• Okayama Phil [15] official website
• Orchestra Ensemble Kawanza [16][17] both these connected with the orchestra [18] this is from the Ishikawa local government site
• Osaka symphoniker [19] official site [20][21] sponsors Sanyo and Sunstar
• Ryukyu Symphony don't seem to have a website, but here [22] is them playing a significant concert in Vietnam [23] here they are playing a concert for the IADB
• Seto Phil [24]an upcoming concert [25][26] I suspect their pianist may be more famous than they are
• Shizuoka [27] official website
• Tokyo New City [28] official website [29] notable performance in Vietnam
• Tokyo New Phil [30] have apparently made a film of themselves - I'm a bit dubious about these guys [31] but they had at least one famous member
• Tokyo Universal Phil [32] share a famous member with Tokyo New Phil [33] it appears they play the backing for the opera (again I have my doubts they are actually notable, but someone with access to Nipponese sources may disprove this)
• Yamagata symphony [34] official website [35] Anton Bruckner recordings

Here's another general listing - for an event in 2008 [36]Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to go ahead and removed the material that I challenged for which you have not provided any references. Sufficient time seems to have passed that if the citations existed, you would have been able to find them by now. Our verifiability policy clearly states: Any material lacking a reliable source may be removed, our list guideline clearly states: Lists, whether they are embedded lists or stand-alone lists, are encyclopedic content as are paragraphs and articles, and they are equally subject to Wikipedia's content policies such as Verifiability, No original research, Neutral point of view, and others. Dlabtot (talk) 16:41, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

My recent changes

I've just removed a whole heap of orchestras and similar which had been added by IP editor(s). Spot checks of these orchestras on Google found that none actually existed. Nick-D (talk) 07:56, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

This page needs a huge re-edit

The organization and the verification of this list is beyond corrupt. I'm willing to improve this page later on during the year. HanSangYoon (talk) 16:55, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Chamber orchestras listed?

I know that some chamber orchestras sometimes play symphonies, but IMO that doesn't make them symphony orchestras. I suggest to remove chamber orchestras from this list. Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:14, 26 June 2023 (UTC)