Talk:List of ships named USS Liberty

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On 21 February 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from USS Liberty to List of ships named USS Liberty. The result of the discussion was moved.

Redlinks in DAB pages[edit]

For WP:SHIPS we use the specific {{shipindex}} marker and while similar in rules to disambig pages not all styles of db are followed for these pages. In regards to USS Liberty (1918) it is listed here for a reader that may be looking for an article on USS Liberty but not be aware there were several such ships. The link needs to be restored. --Brad (talk) 22:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not aware of any exemption for specific projects on how to follow the disambiguation guideline. There are plenty of redlinks that could be accommodated in other kinds of db pages for information only, but they are not accommodated. I don't see why ships are any different. MickMacNee (talk) 00:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 21 February 2024[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved, with set index page moved to List of ships named USS Liberty. A separate discussion on whether to merge that page into Liberty (ship) and retitle as List of ships named Liberty should be done via a separate discussion. For the record, the template was substed correctly and the request was not invalid. (non-admin closure) asilvering (talk) 17:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

– WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. People looking for "USS Liberty" are almost certainly looking for the USS Liberty (AGTR-5) or the 1967 attack on that ship in which 34 crew members were killed and 171 were injured, not the other listed topics. If they're looking for the attack, they will find it discussed and Wikilinked in the first sentence of the article about the ship. Wikinav data here. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:23, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support but the dab page (which is not a dab page but a Set index page) should be named List of ships named USS Liberty per WP:SHIPDAB Lyndaship (talk) 18:59, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No objection to that list title suggestion. I notice that HMS Liberty is similar. I wonder if something should be done with Liberty (ship). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:07, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do we need a List of ships named USS Liberty separate from Liberty (ship) (which is essentially List of ships named Liberty but not in name)? I see WP:SHIPDAB gives as an example, "List of ships named Albatross, with naval ships such as HMS Albatross, SMS Albatross, USS, etc. redirecting to the list". But I'm not familiar with how well that suggestion reflects actual practice. Adumbrativus (talk) 07:54, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support: per common sense primary topic, reinforced by the overwhelming wikinav data presented in the opening comment of the nom. Iskandar323 (talk) 21:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per Lyndaship's suggestion. - not a dab page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llammakey (talk • contribs) 12:40, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No support The vast majority of U.S. military ship's article names contain their military designation. The request in its initial form seems invalid as the template is used directly despite insruction in it not to do so. See Template:Requested_move#Multiple_related_move_requests --Denniss (talk) 13:33, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's wrong with the template? Iskandar323 (talk) 15:32, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As best I recall, I copy-pasted from the template instruction at WP:RMPM. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:25, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Denniss: Note that the instructions given at WP:RMPM (permalink to the then-current version here) are a bit different than what is given at Template:Requested_move#Multiple_related_move_requests, but it shouldn't be considered wrong to follow the instructions at WP:RMPM. That's a much more well-known and visible page than the other one. If the instructions at WP:RMPM are considered wrong, they need to be corrected! —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 16:39, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.