Talk:List of people banned from Major League Baseball

Inclusion of Bud Selig

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People banned under Commissioner Bud Selig

Bud Selig took the Commissioner's office in an "acting commissioner" capacity after Vincent resigned following the 1992 season. He retained this "acting" status until being elected by the owners to be the actual commissioner in 1998, at which time he was part owner of the Milwaukee Brewers. He sold his shares in the Brewers to his daughter in 2002, after widespread accusations of bias in favor of the owners against the MLBPA, since he was for several years an owner himself. A sizeable sect of baseball pundits place the blame for the 1994-95 work stoppage squarely on Selig's shoulders. As of June 2006, his contract as Commissioner will run until 31 December, 2007.

Selig has yet to ban anyone from Major League Baseball. However, new rules against the use of performance-enhancing drugs impose an automatic lifetime banishment if a player tests positive for such drugs three times, so it seems likely that some banishments will occur during Selig's tenure, though, to date, none have.

This section appears to be based on speculation of what might happen. At this time, that would mean it is not encyclopedic. If anyone has other thoughts, why don't we discuss. Cheers // Tecmobowl 01:53, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Other Commissioners?

Was anyone banned for life by the Commissioners not mentioned -- Happy Chandler, Ford Frick, William D. Eckert and Peter Ueberroth? (Ueberroth was mentioned, but for reinstating players, not banning any.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pacholeknbnj (talk • contribs) 18:50, 9 April 2007 (UTC).

English

Not sure how to change this myself, but the title is bad English. It should read ... "who" have been banned for life.--Epeefleche 21:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Discussions for Future Banning

What about the possibility of the steroid people being banned? Should there be mention? Nothing formal has been said, but it's been discussed by fans. 161.185.151.150 (talk) 18:23, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Posthumous commemorations affected by the ban?

Several years ago, after the team that would become the Greenville Drive came to their new home, there was a competition to choose a new team name. The leading name was the "Greenville Joes". However, MLB vetoed the choice as Shoeless Joe was banned from the MLB. Should this be referenced in the article? Have any other players faced the same treatment? Orville Eastland (talk) 02:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

If you can find a reliable source reference, I think it might be worth a mention on this article and on the Shoeless Joe Jackson article. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 13:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Banned "for life" ?

A few times in this article, players are mentioned as being banned "for life". Is this truly correct? If so, it would mean that the player's ban ends when the player's life ends, and thus, that upon their death they are immediately and automatically reinstated as being eligible for posthumous election to the HoF.

I know I often hear media speak of Pete Rose being banned "for life", but the document which he signed which puts him on the Ineligible List actually says that he is "declared permanently ineligible"--which means that his ban actually extends beyond the end of his natural life.

What is the case for everyone else on this list? If they are "permanently ineligible", the "banned for life" verbiage should be removed from this article. There is a section discussing that "banned for life" is a misnomer in most cases--but it would be helpful if the article clarified this on a case by case basis. For example, the article quotes a source as saying that "the Major League Baseball Players Association stipulated that multiple violations of the new Major League Baseball drug policy would result in a lifetime ban." Is this correct--that the MLBPA stipulation is truly worded as a "lifetime ban"? Or is this a case of the misnomer resulting in false information? [— Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.2.84.173 (talk) 11:55, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

What about Lip Pike ?

Lipman 'Lip' Pike, notable for being baseball's first professional player (when the Philadelphia Athletics agreed to pay him $20 a week in 1866), also became baseball's first banned player:

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Pike got a brief call-up in 1881 to play for the Worcester Ruby Legs, but the 36-year-old Pike could no longer play effectively, hitting .111 and not managing a single extra base hit in 18 at-bats over 5 games. His play was so poor as to arouse suspicions, and Pike found himself banned from the National League that September. He was added to the National League blacklist in 1881. He turned to haberdashery, the vocation of his father, and spent another 6 years playing only amateur baseball. He was reinstated in 1883.

---Jewish heroes & heroines of America: 151 true stories of Jewish American heroism. Retrieved February 1, 2011.

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Why wasn't he listed in this article?
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I removed the large Pike note at the top of the history section. Pike (along with several others) was indeed blacklisted in 1881 but this was well after the famous 1877 Louisville scandal with Jim Devlin. Pike is already listed in the chronology section later. I kept that. DavidRF (talk) 16:50, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

1920 - Claude Hendrix

Claude Hendrix is mentioned as banned in 1920 for agreeing to throw a game. Ref: http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Claude_Hendrix. According to Ref, he was not used in the game because he was already suspected. Ref: http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/fca42ef7 also mentions that he was not used in the game, but also claims the issue was not resolved after going to the grand jury (which group dropped the single game/person and began investigating the Black Sox scandal) and he was simply released by the Cubs. So, banned or released? Should there be a mention here as it had gone at least as far as a grand jury? 69.106.48.190 (talk) 20:44, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Hal Chase

From this article: "Landis' declaration after the Black Sox trial that no one who bet on baseball would ever be allowed to play is recognized as formalizing the ban." I would ask, formally recognized by whom.

While I have no doubt that Chase was effectively banned from baseball there isn't any evidence that Landis made a declaration that he concluded Chase bet on baseball and was formally banned. And this book states that Chase was never publicly banned by baseball. Has MLB ever published a permanently ineligible list that he appeared on? TastyPoutine ^{talk (if you dare)} 23:52, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

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