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July 2007[edit]

THIS INFORMATION SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE LIST OF DEAD HEAT HORSE RACES. Fans witnessed Suffolk Downs' only triple dead heat ever on Dec. 31, 1981. 12/31/81 Great Combination, Dawn's Count and Needachant cannot be separated at the finish wire, registering the track's first and only triple dead heat in the last race of the final day of the year. The triple-heater is only the 17th in North American racing history since widespread use of the photo-finish camera began in 1940. There have only been three others since.Zee53 18:07, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be glad to do it if you have a reference to the apparent news story noted above. Wi2g 16:19, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Date format[edit]

The article starts using the month/dd/yyyy format and should probably stick to that. I usually prefer dd/month/yyyy format (I'm British) but it would make more sense to change these to fit with the original. I think that there is also a case for trimming the article so that it just includes multiple dhs and those in notable races. Tigerboy1966 09:01, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, it could be ordered by race type such as flat, trot, or by country and track? The way it is written at the moment, the date is the most prominent part of each entry, but is probably not the most important (or most interesting) information. Perhaps the names of the horses should be first in each entry? I know little about horse racing though. DferDaisy (talk) 23:38, 1 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot to add, I prefer dd/month/yyyy as well, but agree it makes more sense to keep the existing format. I don't think that the article is too long, and I support keeping the entries for the less notable races. DferDaisy (talk) 00:13, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Tigerboy1966: Thanks for fixing the date formats. I'm happy to sort the list by race type, any comments about that? Thanks. DferDaisy (talk) 02:18, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome to have a go at that. Flat racing, Harness racing & Jump racing would be the obvious categories. Tigerboy1966 02:44, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Before trying to sort the races by race type, I've changed all the entries to the same format (and removed the bolding):

date – in "race name" at "race track", between "names of horses"; "other notable information".

This did make me rethink the notability issue. Would suitable criteria for notability be that either the race is notable enough to have its own page, or one of the horses involved has its own page? DferDaisy (talk) 21:25, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think that would be a good idea, although I would also keep the triple dhs. Tigerboy1966 08:06, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Non-notable races/horses in double dead heats[edit]

Per the previous discussion, here are the races that weren't triple dead heats, or which don't involve notable races or notable horses. I've put them here and wikilinked the races and horses so that it will be easy to tell in future if one of them gets its own page.

January 27, 1985 – in the Coaltown Stakes at Aqueduct Racetrack, between Entropy and Muskoka Wyck.^[1]
April 8, 2006 – in race 10 at Aqueduct Racetrack, Karakorum Tuxedo and Megatrend.^[2]
January 25, 2015 – at Leopardstown, Ireland, between Gladiator King and Prince of Scars.^[3]
May 20, 2015 – at Ayr, between Ferryover and Ancient Astronaut.^[4]
May 21, 2015 – in a handicap hurdle at Wetherby, between Lilly's Legend and Minella Hero.^[5]
May 21, 2015 – at Sandown Park, between Critical Risk and Sugar Boy.^[6]
August 21, 2015 – in the Sky Bet First Race Special Stakes at York, between Libran and Memorial Day.^[7]
January 6, 2016 – in the Good Luck On Your Adventure Greg Handicap at Kempton Park Racecourse, between Dutch Golden Age and Light From Mars.^[8]
June 5, 2016 – in the Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden at Listowel Racecourse, between Fox Dream and Mr Adjudicator.^[9]^[10]

April 25, 2017 – in the 18:30 at Wolverhampton, between London Master and Log Off.^[11]
May 2, 2017 – in the 19:30 at Wolverhampton, between Denmead and Masterson.^[12]

References

^ "Entropy shares dead-heat finish". The New York Times. 28 January 1985. Retrieved 2018-03-04.
^ Crist, Steven (12 April 2006). "Dumb rules for dead heats". Daily Racing Form. Retrieved 2018-02-24.
^ "Hurricane Fly makes most of Jezki error to claim 22nd Grade One title". The Irish Times. 25 January 2015. Retrieved 2018-02-10.
^ "EBF Stallions Maiden Stakes (Plus10)". Sporting Life. Archived from the original on 21 May 2015.
^ "Race Result 5:20 WETHERBY Thursday 21 May". Timeform. Retrieved 2018-02-10.
^ "Horse Racing Results". BBC News. 28 May 2015. Retrieved 2018-02-10.
^ "Dead-heat drama in York opener". Sky Sports. 21 August 2015. Retrieved 2018-02-24.
^ "Full Result | 18:40 Good Luck On Your Adventure Greg Handicap | Kempton Park". Sky Sports Horse Racing.
^ Carson, Gary (5 June 2016). "Fox And Adjudicator Share Spoils In Opener". Irish Racing.
^ "Nothing to separate Dream and Adjudicator at Listowel". Horse Racing Ireland. 6 June 2016. Retrieved 2018-02-01.
^ "Full Result 6.30 Wolverhampton (AW)". Racing Post. 25 April 2017. Retrieved 2018-02-01.
^ "Full Result 7.30 Wolverhampton (AW)". Racing Post. 2 May 2017. Retrieved 2018-02-01.

[1] "Entropy shares dead-heat finish". The New York Times. 28 January 1985. Retrieved 2018-03-04.

[2] Crist, Steven (12 April 2006). "Dumb rules for dead heats". Daily Racing Form. Retrieved 2018-02-24.

[3] "Hurricane Fly makes most of Jezki error to claim 22nd Grade One title". The Irish Times. 25 January 2015. Retrieved 2018-02-10.

[4] "EBF Stallions Maiden Stakes (Plus10)". Sporting Life. Archived from the original on 21 May 2015.

[5] "Race Result 5:20 WETHERBY Thursday 21 May". Timeform. Retrieved 2018-02-10.

[6] "Horse Racing Results". BBC News. 28 May 2015. Retrieved 2018-02-10.

[7] "Dead-heat drama in York opener". Sky Sports. 21 August 2015. Retrieved 2018-02-24.

[8] "Full Result | 18:40 Good Luck On Your Adventure Greg Handicap | Kempton Park". Sky Sports Horse Racing.

[9] Carson, Gary (5 June 2016). "Fox And Adjudicator Share Spoils In Opener". Irish Racing.

[10] "Nothing to separate Dream and Adjudicator at Listowel". Horse Racing Ireland. 6 June 2016. Retrieved 2018-02-01.

[11] "Full Result 6.30 Wolverhampton (AW)". Racing Post. 25 April 2017. Retrieved 2018-02-01.

[12] "Full Result 7.30 Wolverhampton (AW)". Racing Post. 2 May 2017. Retrieved 2018-02-01.

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