Talk:List of best-selling Latin albums in the United States/Archive 1

Dreaming of You

The album was updated and was certified 3x Diamond in February 2011 [1]. Best, Jonayo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 23:15, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Something's odd about it. Mostly the fact that it doesn't appear on the RIAA webiste. Perhaps it's meant to the 35x Disco De Platino rather than standard? The only sales figures I found are 3 mil so I'm having doubts that it shipped over 10 mil. EDIT: Upon looking on this pic, it's not a 3x. It's three separate Diamond disks for three albums. Amor Prohibido, Dreaming of You, and it looks like Ones? Erick (talk) 23:59, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

I know I had brought the issue up with WP:IRS but they said since RIAA and Billboard didn't cover it that its nothing important. However, I found this source that verifies the plaques. The source you found was from 1999, its 2011 and it only covers the USA :) Yea its Ones, however, I was going with [2] that identified the shipments, of course I couldn't use that as a source per WP:FAN, so since the event happened at the stamps this February I searched and found the source with the picture. BTW does RIAA always update their site? Best, Jonayo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 00:23, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

The RIAA just updated the latest certifications on Oct. 31, so they are rather up-to-date. And rather than a pictures, here's what I found in regards to [3]. When an album reaches at 10x platinum, it is a diamond album for shipments of 10,000,000. But Selena's Amor Prohidibo and Dreaming of You have only been certified 2x standard platinum. Rather, it seems the diamond was made for the Latin certifications because of the amount of certifications it received. Erick (talk) 00:59, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Erik I couldn't read that source its Spanish! lolz. So how would I use all of that http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_best-selling_Latin_albums_in_the_United_States&action=edit&section=1into Dreaming of You (album)? Diamond (Latin type)? Best, Jonayo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 01:11, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

I'll translate it for you: " El álbum ‘Dreaming of You’ obtuvo disco triple Diamante, ‘Amor Prohibido’ alcanzo doble diamante y su compilado de éxitos, ‘Ones’ ha sido certificado 5 veces platino." "The album Dreaming of You, obtained triple diamond, Amor Prohibido reached double diamond, Ones was certified platinum five times". I am more convinced that is indeed a Latin certification. But first I will ask someone. Erick (talk) 01:19, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Oh okay so its 3x Diamond (Latin type) not sure what the shipments are. Alright, please let me know what happens. Best, Jonayo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 01:22, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

I think this is actually much simpler. Note that it does say anywhere that RIAA actually gave them the diamond records. I believe the reason is that there is in fact no official Diamond Latin certification. The ceremony was held by the Postal Service and they were the ones who gave that plaque. The text also mentions a guitar of some sort given. Anyway, even if I'm wrong and RIAA decided to give Latin Diamond certifications (which would be a first), there is no way these are anything but a re-certification for the previous numbers, which stay unchanged. When RIAA gives Diamond records they always update the number of Platinum too. If this was for selling 10M we would have a 100x Platinum Latin listing, and we don't. --Muhandes (talk) 06:25, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

So Dreaming of You stays 35x Platinum? If so I'll change the article per source and remove the postal service source. Jonayo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 15:46, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it shipped 3,500,000 units in the US, and was certified 35x Platinum (Latin). --Muhandes (talk) 18:26, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

A bit confused

Why does the article not include how many copies the albums sold?  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 16:10, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

I copied this (with permission) from List of best-selling albums in the United Kingdom. I have no objections for sales being displayed though. Erick (talk) 17:05, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't quite make much sense to be listing the best-selling albums, without displaying how much they actually sold. I'm gonna leave a comment on that list about it too.  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 17:09, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I had sales displayed before I revamped the article. I'll put them on when I have the time. Erick (talk) 17:22, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Alright; thanks for the response! Great work on the article by the way!  — Statυs (talk, contribs) 17:25, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Santana's Supernatural

Why is Supernatural being included in this list? If we go by the RIAA's and Billboard's definition (as stated in the first paragraph of the article) that an album is considered a Latin album if it contains over 50% Spanish material, then Santana's Supernatural is certainly not a Latin album, as only four of the thirteen songs are in Spanish. If we are considering this album as Latin, then other albums by Latin crossover artists should be included in the list too. Shakira's Laundry Service, to name an example, has sold a large amount of copies as well and from its thirteen songs, only four are in Spanish, just like Supernatural. This list should be modified. --StephenG (talk) 05:13, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Supernatural peaked at #1 on the Billboard Latin Albums though, whereas Laundry Service did not rank on the Billboard Latin Albums chart. But to be fair, Supernatural was removed the week after its debut after Billboard determined it did not qualify to be on the chart so I guess there's that. Erick (talk) 09:20, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

Standard vs Latin

@Geo-0609: I'm not one to start a fight over something rather petty, so I'll just explain my view point. According to the RIAA database, Amor Prohibido was certified 2x platinum (standard) and 20x platinum in the Latin field (older threshold) for shipping 2 million copies. Same goes for Suenos Liquidos and Sentimientos, which were both certified platinum (standard) and 10x Latin (old threshold) for one million copies. Is there any reason it has to be changed to Latin? Erick (talk) 18:38, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Quick feedback

Hey A Thousand Doors! I don't know if you recall, but a few years ago, I asked if I could use List of best-selling albums in the United Kingdom as the basis for this article. Just recently, Billboard published the best-selling Latin albums in the US since Nielsen SoundScan has been around and was wondering if you could take a quick look and see how it compares to the other article you made FL. Thanks! Erick (talk) 03:13, 20 October 2017 (UTC)