Talk:List of battles of the War of the Fourth Coalition
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@Renata3: I put this list in the WikiProject Lithuania because the war was ended by the Treaties of Tilsit (mentioned in the Battle of Friendland column), and Tilsit was the capital of Lithuania Minor at the time (and Talk:Lithuania Minor is in the WikiProject Lithuania). What is your reason for removing it? Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:19, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nederlandse Leeuw : it's such a trivial connection. None of the battles took place in Lithuania, nor Lithuania fought in this war. Not every article that mentions Lithuania should be included in WP:Lith article list. Renata•3 02:43, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Renata3: well if Lithuania needs to exist and act as a state (e.g. participate in a war) in order to have history, then it had no history at all between 1795 and 1918 (same goes for Poland; it's even worse for Latvia, whose WikiProject would be limited to post-1918 history). I regard the Treaties of Tilsit as crucial to world history. They ended the war there, produced several iconic paintings of the meeting between Napoleon and Alexander on the river Neman (File:Tilsitz 1807.JPG) and Napoleon with the Prussian king and queen inside Tilsit (File:Тильзит. 1807.jpg), and the Treaties had long-lasting military and political consequences. They changed the map of Europe: Prussia lost half its territory including New East Prussia, which included Lithuanian parts such as Samogitia, which became part of the Duchy of Warsaw (thus, 6% of its population were Lithuanians). I don't think it's necessary for Lithuania to have participated as a state in the battles or that a battle needed to be fought on Lithuanian soil to be relevant. This is the place where the two emperors and the Prussian monarchs of the main armies (including Lithuanian troops) met, and reflected on all the battles they had fought and what conclusions to draw from the results in order to agree on a new balance of power rather than fighting yet more battles. If you really think all that doesn't matter enough to Lithuania, you may exclude it, but I think it would be a loss. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 04:21, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nederlandse Leeuw: there are a ton of important world events that affected Lithuania and Lithuanians, directly or indirectly. Say, Russian Revolution or Titanic sinking (there were Lithuanians onboard) but that does not mean that these events should be included in the WikiProject. Otherwise, you'll find some tenuous connection to half of the articles on Wikipedia. Under your logic, the United States WikiProject would literally have to include 95% of Wikipedia articles. Renata•3 01:46, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. Thanks for explaining, and have a nice day. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 10:27, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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