Talk:List of artists and art institutions in Portland, Oregon

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Additions and subtractions[edit]

If an artist is important, notable and nationally known, write an article on him/her then (and only then) include it in the list. If something you add isn't a redlink, check the link to make sure it doesn't point to the wrong article. If you need help disambiguating an article name, let me know. Here is more advice about writing articles. Thanks! Katr67 23:41, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Colleges[edit]

It might be nice to list how each college is part of the art scene if it isn't obvious (like the art college). Is it because they have art classes? Galleries? Lecture series? Or what? Otherwise it just looks like a list of all the colleges in the area. Katr67 17:59, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good Idea, Reed has the Cooley Gallery and PSU has an MFA program, PNCA is an art school so that should be self explanatory. --Gungnir PDX 08:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

People[edit]

Someone took Miranda July off the list, I think because she doesn't live there anymore. How should this list handle former residents? Katr67 18:26, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well she was here and Portland played an important role in her development. I think she should stay and if that doesnt fit the definitions of the article it should be ammended to accomodate people who develop here. At a cetain point an artist is no longer really claimable by any city. What is important is where they developed and made history as July did.--Gungnir PDX 22:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've started a stub on MK Guth here. And one for David Butts here. Should I submit them to be moved to live pages (as stubs), or delete the references to them here in this list of artists? An admin speedily deleted the David Butts article as I was writing it, so trying to avoid that mistake again. Hobsonlane (talk) 22:22, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In reply to your comment above and private email to me, develop the biographical article in your user space at your convenience. When it is completed enough to pass the notability guidelines for people and, if living, the biographies of living persons guideline, then move it to article space, add it to appropriate categories, and link to it from associated articles.

Having a list item link to non-article space is generally to be avoided. Lists of notable topics are deemed to be notable if there is a proper article about the topic. Linking from article space to user space undermines the basis for notability of the entry. —EncMstr (talk) 23:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@EncMstr Shouldn't we delete the artist from this list until MK Guth is notable, then? Is a broken link preferable to a userspace link then? It's the only red link and the only reflink on this page. Detracts from an otherwise polished page. Hobsonlane (talk) 16:21, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A redlink would be better than a crosslink in a normal article. However, in a list of notable entities it is better to remove it until the article is ready. —EncMstr (talk) 16:49, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey presto, MK Guth article created. Sionk (talk) 23:59, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

List of artists, curators, etc.[edit]

Can we break this down into more subcategories? Artists, Writers, Filmmakers, etc.? The list will be much easier to navigate that way. Katr67 14:04, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

People are often working in many genres now; many filmakers are also artists (like Matt McCormick of Periphrial produce ...who deserves his own page), writers and architects also have notable gallery shows as artists as well. Its more common than uncommon to cross genres. I think the trick is to keep to just the most notable ones (there are a few here I question). Then again we could break it up if someone could be listed in several categories?... but isn't that ultimately more cumbersome. --Gungnir PDX 01:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I separated the artists (of all ilk) from the curators and critics. Sure there is some crsossover but I sorted them into the capacity they are most noted for.--Gungnir PDX 08:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Institutions?[edit]

I can't tell if this list is the appropriate place for Portland Opera and Oregon Symphony. Is it? —EncMstr 00:29, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not really.. its more for visual arts --Gungnir PDX (talk) 01:31, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Any standard on listings of artists?[edit]

Is there any standards for the lists of artists? I happen to be a metal and led lighing artist. Can I list myself? 70.90.129.90 (talk) 07:17, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A common standard for lists is to only include entries that have a WP aritcle (i.e. a blue link). It's not an absolute criteria, but for an entry that doesn't have an article a good reason should be offered. RJFJR (talk) 02:52, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]