Talk:List of MAX Light Rail stations

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please edit 2 opened stations.[edit]

Hey,

Kings Hill/Southwest Salmon and PGE Park MAX light rail blue and red line stations opened in 1997. Not 1998.

Mr. Newton —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.21.128.59 (talk) 07:19, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Northeast or NE?[edit]

Officially, Trimet uses the abbreviation NE instead of the full name Northeast (as well as SW, etc.) on all of its branding. Should we rename these affected articles to conform to their standards? --Truflip99 (talk) 05:52, 26 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

They never should have been renamed from (e.g.) NE to Northeast in the first place, but that did occur (and vice versa!). The MAX station articles have all been renamed numerous times, by different editors each time – at least 5 or 6 times in the nine years I have been editing here – almost always without any discussion, just because someone saw a map, or station signage, or a schedule, or whatever, and falsely concluded that that one medium they saw shows the 'official' name, and that the name being used for the WP article was 'incorrect'. That's not what you, Truflip99 are doing with your question. I am just pointing out the format of the station names in the titles of the WP articles has been changed many times before, and this is likely to continue (due mainly to ignorance, IMHO), so you may be wasting your time proposing renaming any of them. What those other editors failed to understand is that (1) even TriMet uses different formats and abbreviations in different media, and alway has done so (and it's perfectly logical), and (2) media such as printed or online maps, which can be relatively easily changed (compared with signage at stations, which is very expensive to change) is likely to be changed in minor ways over time (e.g., a different person at TriMet may decide that "Avenue" should be abbreviate as "Ave" on maps). It's ridiculous to argue that the names of the WP articles on individual stations need to reflect such trivial changes, which, again, won't be consistent throughout all TriMet media, just the medium that one WP editor noticed! (Again, I am not referring to Truflip99's narrow question, but the question opened the door for a broader commment.) So, WP station articles should never be renamed just because one TriMet medium shows the names in a format that is different from the one used for the titles of the WP articles.
In short, there is no one "official name" for every MAX station that is used in all TriMet media. Different media (e.g. maps, signage at stations, destination signs) all have different considerations regarding space, the distance from which the user is reading the info., whether it is being used in a sentence or is a graphic, etc., so it's very logical for TriMet to use different versions for different types of uses. In the case of transit centers on the MAX system, I have long been annoyed that the WP article titles keep changing (every year or two, a different editor will rename the articles!), and it's always a version of the long name that virtually no one actually uses commonly – e.g. Gateway/Northeast 99th Avenue TC vs. simply "Gateway Transit Center", or "Hillsboro Central/SE 3rd Avenue Transit Center" vs. simply "Hillsboro Transit Center", when the two simple versions are the names in most common use by the public and the news media (and are even used by TriMet itself in schedules, such as this one for line 57). I consider the use of the long-form names in these cases to be contrary to WP:COMMONNAME.
Going back to Truflip99's specific question: Personally, I feel that spelling out (e.g.) NE as Northeast in the titles of these articles is unwarranted, and that the only place it really must be spelled out is in the first sentence of each article. So, I would support renaming with regard to that element of each station name in WP article titles, but whatever name is chosen, it's inevitable that another editor will come along in a year or two and change all of the titles again. I wish I knew of a way to prevent that (i.e. to prevent it occurring without any discussion). SJ Morg (talk) 18:37, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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