Talk:Lars Gule

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Criminal category deleted[edit]

I have deleted the category Norwegian criminal. This is not correct as I was never convicted for a criminal offense. Illegal possession of explosives was a misdemeanor in Lebanon in 1977.--Lars Gule (talk) 09:51, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The law proposal of which Gule was a major factor, for the withdrawel of (law proposal).[edit]

The Norwegian page mentions blasfemi-saken. If I want to create an article on this wikipedia, then what would I call that article?

(The article would be about the law proposal that the Norwegian Cabinet was gunning for, and the circumstances in which the proposal was withdrawn (while Jens Stoltenberg was left "holding the bag".)

Odelstingproposisjon "enter-number-here"

(The "blasphemy case" would not be a correct name for the article, in English.)

And when I know what to call that article, then I will also be a little bit closer to translating that part from the Norwegian to the English article about Lars Gule.

And does anyone know the number of the mentioned law proposal, odelstingproposisjon ?--Camouflage Sutra (talk) 18:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Terrorist?[edit]

What is the threshold for using the terrorist label? It appears sufficiently documented that Gule was intercepted in the midst of a terrorism act. He was, however, acquitted of terrorism charges in the Lebanon trial, so I suppose the fact that this seems by now well established must hinge on sources that have been presented since. Now, if we have sufficient cause and documentation to use the terrorism label, the corresponding categories must be equally considered. __meco (talk) 21:41, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am careful not to contribute to this biography more than necessary - only with factual updates on publications, minor corrections etc. However, when someone with an agenda, like StoppSosialistLøgnen (= Stop the Socialist Lies), interferes with the article by adding certain words, I think the editors should intervene. And you should be aware that the Norwegian version has had to be locked because of edit war. Lars Gule (talk) 20:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am fully aware of the high-temperature contention over your past in Norwegian public discourse. I think the best way to deal with that is to facilitate a discussion with significant participation of disinterested editors to form a consensus on how to address the matter I raise above. I believe a request for comments is called for. __meco (talk) 08:46, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RfC: Use of the terrorist label and corresponding categories[edit]

Should the label terrorist be used as a term to describe Lars Gule, and should the article be categorized in categories for terrorists? __meco (talk) 08:50, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

While Gule was arrested with explosives, and potentially enroute to perform a terrorist act, I would prefer that the term "terrorist" not be used. This is in part due to the guidelines in BLP but also because no evidence of a terrorist act has been shown. The desire or intent to do something is not the same as doing it. Vertium ^{When all is said} _{and done} 18:41, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I also don't think we should use "terrorist" as a description. Partly because from an accuracy viewpoint it's wrong ("failed terrorist" would be closer, but even that isn't necessarily right), and partly because several sources don't use the label (e.g. BBC News describing Gule only as a philosopher in the context of a piece on terrorism). Using it without qualification actively promotes an opinion. Alzarian16 (talk) 12:39, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I do think it is relevant to use the "terrorist" label. According to his own words, Lars Gule trained for the attack with the palestinian terroristorganisation DFLP(which only 3 years earlier had massacered 22 children. See Ma'alot massacre), and had clear goals of attacking the Israeli "President Hotel". The fact that he was caught just before he was going to perform the attack, doesn't make him any less of an terrorist. At the very least the term "failed terrorist" should be used. ref: http://www.side3.no/3091492.html TheTruthalizer (talk) 17:02, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism and falsifications[edit]

The user Tekvern has on several occasions deleted my academic degree and title in this biographical article. He has on the talk page of the Norwegian bio article stated that he does not feel that I argue like a philosopher and are therefore not entitled to be called a philosopher. The degree and title are nevertheless documented facts. The continued deletions are therefore a form of vandalism that should be stopped by administrators if they occur again. Lars Gule (talk) 18:15, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Point of view removed[edit]

I have removed the following: "An active participant in online user debates, Gule has been censored numerous times for his comments, and he is consequently often seen as an Internet troll." The reasons are the following: 1. There is no foundation for this statement in the article given as a reference. The article is about various Internet debaters but does not refer to me as an Internet Troll. I have been "censored" on a number of occasions but who hasn't? Is it worth mentioning in a biography? And how do you document that? How many deletions of thousands of postings should there be before it is worth mentioning? It should also be mentioned that those who are inclined to call me an Internet Troll and shout about me being censored, are those I criticise and who - almost without exceptions - belong on the extreme right. 2. If it had been correct it should be placed in the article, not in the introduction, as it is not of such importance/weight that is warrants "headline" mentioning.

It is correct that I am involved in BDS Norway and this can be mentioned in the main article. Lars Gule (talk) 08:02, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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