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Verify this?[edit]

"Recently, Lakeside has been recognized in national publications for its students' exceptional SAT scores and high admission rates to top universities. Widely regarded as one of the top college prep schools in the country, it regularly sends up to 25% of its graduating class to Ivy League schools." But ever since Bernie Noe became headmaster these once high statistics have been slowly declining. The truth is many see lakeside is now a dwindling institution because of its lack of good teachers and the absence of a good administration

In which national publications was Lakeside recognized? By whom is it widely regarded as a top college prep school? Lakeside is widely regarded by some of my friends in Seattle as a snob factory and elitist institution but that doesn't mean it should be in the article. :) --Chinawhitecotton 05:52, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

it was in the new york times two years ago, it was ranked 13th among private schools in the nation for sending college grads to top schools

There was also a front page article in WSJ. -alexrson

The School profile sent to colleges provides some information (https://www.lakesideschool.org/ftpimages/252/download/collegeprofile11-12.pdf). By my calculations, the list at the bottom shows that 13.6% of seniors in the last three years have gone to Ivy League schools. Could someone add this? I don't know how to create a citation. The profile also has information on test scores if such information is considered relevant.174.24.198.156 (talk) 06:00, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

number one university for Lakeside graduates?[edit]

"The number one university for Lakeside graduates is the University of Washington, the biggest public university in the state."

What exactly does this mean? That more graduates go to the UW than to any other university? If so I think it should be reworded - "number one" implies the best university. Not that the UW is not good.

It would be interesting to find statistics for where all the grads go to college. --Chinawhitecotton 23:47, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man, check the site. 25% to Ivy League colleges? I think that speaks for itself. --Home-Skilz: 10% of the 2023 graduating class went to Stanford! ----

I agree, also I don't think there is a problem with the wording. --Equinox17 22:41, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I still don't see where on the Lakeside site they talk about ivy league schools. Not that it would surprise me if so many went, just an issue of proper citation. --Chinawhitecotton 13:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That information is in the brochure which the school sends to colleges to which Lakesiders are applying. Also the second and third most popular schools for Lakeside grads are Stanford and the University of Pennsylvania.

With the class of 2015 Stanford passed Univ of Washington for the #1 matriculations from Lakeside School. Pretty impressive! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.35.190.66 (talk) 17:11, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Do you send a child there and/or go there yourself?[edit]

You have no right to be talking about which schools are a snob factory if you have not attended them. Didn't get your child in? Sorry but I'm afraid you don't really have an argument. Granted it costs around $20,000 per year. But they offer quite a bit of financial aid. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.103.85.128 (talk) 22:25, 25 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I went there. But even if I didn't I would still have a right to say that some people think of the school in a certain way. My only point was that you need to provide evidence for statements. That is why I didn't say that the school was a snob factory in the actual article. So, I think I do have an argument, actually. Did you learn your debate skills at Lakeside?? --Chinawhitecotton 23:55, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Snob Factory? I think not. Lakeside works to promote financial aid, and 24 precent of it's school population is under that program. Hardly a snob factory. When did you go there, Chinawhitecotton? I joined Lakeside 4 years ago, and alumni have told me that Lakeside had worked to reverse the snobbish reputation. Lakeside strives to allow anyone to participate in any school-related activity, regardless of your financial situation.

Alright you have an argument. I phrased it wrong. I ment that your argument wasn't acurate. A different thing I know. If I might ask when did you go there? It has changed alot since Bernie Noe became headmaster.

I currently go to this school. As with any school, I believe that there will always be errors within the school system, and nothing will ever be perfect. Perhaps, Lakeside is held in higher criticism because of the impressive list of alumnus. I completely disagree, though, if you know what I'm talking about, with the way that the administration handled the whole laptop stealing/drug situation at the beginning of the year. The administration is much like our current government. If they see something they don't like, they try to eliminate it as quickly as possible to attract the least attention possible in order to "move on" and maintain the school's integrity, with total disregard to the students involved in the situation. Fosteriana (talk) 01:48, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lock this page?[edit]

Could someone lock like page or request a lock. Some people have been vandalising it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.231.139.2 (talk) 19:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Controversy[edit]

I'm not so sure that the GSL program is trying to diversify the school. It was more to provide an opportunity for the students to experience life in other parts of the world as stated in the Mission, "global citizens" If ChinaWhiteCotton would like to disagree or suggest an alternative? I think it should be its own section without the GSL program involved. Seeing as people arn't comming back to diversify Lakeside but rather students are going to other places. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.103.85.128 (talk) 22:44, 15 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I am not opposed to separating the section out. It seems to me there is some relationship - introducing more diverse viewpoints, either with diversity on the school or exposing the students to diversity abroad. The article about the controversy in the Seattle Weekly [1] talks about about "global citizenship" as a related goal to the diversity push, and both started at about the same time under the same leadership. Be that as it may, if you want to break the controversy around diversity into a new section, I have no problem with it!--Chinawhitecotton 13:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alright sounds good, I was under the impression that the controversy started because of the Dinesh-Desouzah (pardon my awful spelling), and the diversity question was given a little too much press. It was a matter of not wanting him to say something seemingly racist without time to justify it. He is known for saying things about blacks that could be debated but if asked under a Q&A they sound racist(He was supposed to be talking about Iraq). Lakeside obviously didn't want that. Because he wouldn't really get to explain Lakeside wouldn't want people to be offended. Note: This is my view. This is what I have gathered but may not be true.

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Cut pending citation[edit]

"Prizefighter Brigid McManama": yes, there is a Lakeside alumna of this name, I doubt she has ever been a prizefighter. Cut pending citation. - Jmabel | Talk 17:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LAWSPT? stands for?[edit]

In the clubs section, does anyone know what LAWSPT stands for? I know last year it stood for "Lakeside Association of Wannabee String Theorists", but I know that they changed it this year. Bryan.Wade (talk) 17:13, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notability[edit]

Just because someone doesn't have his own page doesn't mean they aren't notable... Bryan.Wade (talk) 03:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A page isn't required; but the individual should at least be able to be demonstrated to meet the requirements of WP:BIO "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject.". A reference to a reliable third party with more than just trivial coverage would accomplish this. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 14:39, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added some ref tags for the names. That should satisfy the basic criteria of WP:BIO. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 15:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

pov[edit]

the "global service learning" section sounds like something out of an advertising brochure for the school. e.g "...helping students gain a broader view of the world while helping the underprivileged around the world." 24.17.211.150 (talk) 07:03, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protection[edit]

I have semi-protected the page due to an edit war between anonymous IP editors. Please settle any differences here on the talk page rather than continuing the revert war. Cheers, --Baron Larf 07:20, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've said it several times in my edit summaries, but ok. The list of school clubs is ridiculous and unencyclopedic, schools all have the same clubs, a list such as this is unnecessary unless a club is worthy of mention. When it comes to the Facts and figures section, most of this is trivial and better suited to a prospectus, Students of colour? Number of library books? exam results? none of this belongs in an encyclopedia. I will also point out that every time I was reverted, rather than giving reasons the person reverting used inflammatory and false summaries such as "adding section" and "fixing error".--86.181.74.244 (talk) 05:45, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh really? Well let me give you some examples of some other school pages that have such "unencyclopedic" information.

All Hallows' School Has section on its "clubs and societies", and co-curriculum activites. (as well as a whole section on its uniform!)

[[2]] has one on its test scores

Garfield High School (Seattle, Washington) has an academics section

Auburn High School Has section on academics as well as one section called Test scores. It also mentions student teacher ratio. Oh, and guess what? It has a list of clubs EXACTLY like the one on this page! The section is called extracurricular activities.

This list of clubs concept as well as the information in the facts and figures exists all over the place in other school articles. The consensus is that such information IS notable. If you want to actually contribute, I would suggest you go look at other school pages before you go around willy nilly deleting perfectly notable information.

Oh, btw, those school pages that I mentioned are just random examples that I got from this list [[3]] . I didn't even look hard (notice how 3 of them start with the letter A, thats because they were one of the first few that I looked at). There really are plenty more examples. 128.237.227.239 (talk) 21:26, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lakeside School mentions[edit]

Mentioned in Tobias Wolff's This Boy's Life (1989) and the movie adaptation "This Boy's Life" (1993) with Leonardo DiCaprio as Toby.

"Finally, they required that I take a prep-school version of the Scholastic Aptitude Test, to be administered in January at the Lakeside School in Seattle." Book

Toby: When I went to fill out the application forms I ran into a wall. They wanted letters of recommendations from teachers. I figured I could write these myself. But they wanted my grades on our official high school transcript forms and this was a problem... http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/t/this-boys-life-script-transcript.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.18.249.31 (talk) 00:58, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Downgrading from B to Start[edit]

I'm not seeing how this very short article with the issues it has qualifies as B class, I'm dropping its rating to similar High School articles in the area that have about the same content and issues. --Goldman60 Talk 23:41, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Lakeside Judicial Committee[edit]

thoughts? 73.42.221.164 (talk) 21:20, 14 December 2020 (UTC)c[reply]

Could you be more specific? Are you suggesting that we add a section discussing it? Finnigami (talk) 03:14, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]