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Feedback from New Page Review process[edit]
I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Can you add an infobox? That would be helpful to the readers. Cheers!
Chanaka L (talk) 12:28, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks - and done! Laterthanyouthink (talk) 05:50, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Descendants[edit]
More detailed version of the descendants, condensed in the article today.
Tim's side[edit]
Tim married four times, losing three of his wives to illness. He had four children with second wife Bessie (née Reeves): Lewis, Gertrude, Julia, and Arthur.[1]
- Lewis Adams, m. May Edwards (no offspring, but largely parented their great nephew Lewis Yerloburka O'Brien)[2][1][a]
- Gertrude Adams, m. William Williams[1][b]{
- four boys[1]
- Georgina Yambo Williams (1940–),[3] activist and elder, "Clan-to-Country Custodian Southern/Northern Kaurna (Yerta), Parnka/Ramindjeri to Narungga/Adjadhura",[4] who was "probably first to call for the revival" of the Kaurna language in the mid-1980s,[5] and largely responsible for the creation of Tjilbruke Dreaming Track (1986–2006)[6]
- four boys[1]
- Julia Adams (b. 1876 at Poonindie), m. Henry Simpson in 1903; three daughters[1]
- Arthur "Bishop" Adams, m. Mary Simms (no surviving offspring)[1]
Tom's side[edit]
Tom Jnr had 5 sons, all with no offspring.[1] These must have included eldest grandchild William Adams, who gave evidence at the 1913 South Australian Royal Commission on the Aborigines,[3][9][10] and Charlie Adams (died 1949), who continued to put in claims to Section 346 at Skillogalee Creek his whole life, but unsuccessfully.[3]
Tom Jnr also had 4 daughters, who married and took the names Angie, Sansbury, Wilson, and:[1]
- Maisie May Adams (m. Joe Edwards, a Narungga man, grandson of respected negotiator "King Tommy")
- Katie Edwards (m. Fred Warrior, aka Barney Waria); sisters Amy, Doris, Viney, and Mary (probably others)
- Josie Agius (1934–2016), one of South Australia’s first Aboriginal health workers;[3][8] honoured with the 2014 NAIDOC Award "for improving the lives and welfare of Aboriginal peoples in South Australia" and by the 2017 renaming of Park 22 in the Adelaide Park Lands by the City of Adelaide to Josie Agius Park/Wikaparntu Wirra (Park 22)[11][12] (sister to Vince Copley)[13]
- Vince Copley (1936-2022), activist, leader, and elder; youngest of five children (Winnie, Josie, Colin, and Maureen); a much younger cousin of Elphick[14] (he called her "Aunty Glad")[15]
- Katie Edwards (m. Fred Warrior, aka Barney Waria); sisters Amy, Doris, Viney, and Mary (probably others)
Family movements[edit]
Henry and Julia Simpson first spent two years in Port Pirie, before moving to Wardang Island, and then Point Turton. They were not allowed to stay on at Point Pearce because Henry was a white man (from Echunga), and Julia's multiple requests for land were unsuccessful.[1]
Lewis O'Brien spent time in foster care as a teenager, and went to live with his "Auntie Glad" (Gladys Elphick[e]) in Thebarton when he was 18 (around 1948).[1]
Other descendants (unknown line)[edit]
- Gertrude Adams — John Herbert Walters[7][b]
- Gladys Elphick (née Walters; 1904–1988), m. Walter Hughes (1922); m. Frederick Elphick (1940);[7][3] according to Lewis O'Brien, a cousin of his mother Gladys.[1]
- Timothy Hughes MBE (1919–1976),[3][16]
- Alfred Hughes[16]
- Gladys Elphick (née Walters; 1904–1988), m. Walter Hughes (1922); m. Frederick Elphick (1940);[7][3] according to Lewis O'Brien, a cousin of his mother Gladys.[1]
- Cecil Graham (1911–1994), Australian rules footballer,[3] who, with his wife Doris May Graham (1912–2004), also a descendant,[3] had 15 children,[17] including several footballers among their descendants and extended family[18]
- Doris and Cecil's sons, Rex ("Curra"), Fred ("Tonga"), Bradley (the three eldest), and Michael Graham[18]
- Bradley's sons, Phil Graham, Colin Graham, and Brenton Graham[18]
- Doris and Cecil's sons, Rex ("Curra"), Fred ("Tonga"), Bradley (the three eldest), and Michael Graham[18]
- Michael O'Loughlin (1977–), Australian Rules footballer[3]
- Ali Abdullah-Highfold (1978–), family and community historian[3] at the South Australian Museum[19]
- Chad Wingard (1993–), Australian Rules footballer[3]
Notes
- ^ See this journal article, p.107-8, for photos taken by Norman Tindale.
- ^ a b Note conflicting accounts between ADB and Uncle Lewis O'Brien - was there another Gertrude somewhere, or is Lewis' account incorrect? Wikitree entry (as does ADB) says that Elphick was daughter of John Herbert Walters, gas meter inspector, and Gertrude Adams, confirmed by Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922 records both Page Number: 208, Volume Number: 734)
- ^ Gladys Elphick (born Walters, then Hughes) moved to Adelaide and lived with her cousin Gladys O'Brien, after her husband's death in 1937.[7] Lewis O'Brien also writes of "Auntie Glad" (Elphick), his mother's cousin, with whom he went to live in Adelaide (p.131 of his autobiography) when he was 18 (i.e. c.1948, and there was Uncle Fred (Elphick - married Gladys in 1940[7]), Granny Gertie, brother Lawrence, and cousin Alfie (See p.3 of his autobiography). He also talks of "Uncle Tim Hughes"[1] (possibly his older cousin? - but only around 11 years older...)
- ^ Lewis never met his father, who left his mother before he was born, and returned to England in 1935, remarried and had a family there.
- ^ Surname confirmed on p.131 of O'Brien's autobiography.
References
- ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p Cite error: The named reference
thirteenwas invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ O'Brien, Lewis (December 1990). "My Education" (PDF). Journal of the Anthropological Society of South Australia. 28 (2): 105–125. Archived from the original (PDF) on 3 May 2019. Retrieved 3 May 2019.
- ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l Brock, Peggy (2020). "Kudnarto (c. 1832–1855)". Indigenous Australia. Retrieved 29 February 2024.
This entry is from the Australian Dictionary of Biography
- ^ "Georgina Williams". Cordite Poetry Review. 1 May 2018. Retrieved 3 March 2024.
- ^ Robert Amery. "Chapter 34: The Kaurna diaspora and its homecoming: Understanding the loss and re-emergence of the Kaurna language of the Adelaide Plains, South Australia", in Language Land & Song: Studies in Honour of Luise Hercus, 2016 / Austin, P., Koch, H., Simpson, J. (eds), pp.505-522
- ^ "Ways of Belonging"; Exhibition Essay By Georgina Yambo Williams, and Christine Nicholls
- ^ a b c d E. M. Fisher (2007). "Elphick, Gladys (1904–1988)". Australian Dictionary of Biography. National Centre of Biography, Australian National University.
This article was published in hardcopy in Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 17, (Melbourne University Press), 2007
- ^ a b Cite error: The named reference
brock2022was invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ George, Karen; George, Gary (14 August 2015). "Royal Commission on the Aborigines (1913-1916)". Find & Connect. Retrieved 1 March 2024.
- ^ "Royal Commission on the Aborigines" (PDF). South Australia. Government Printer. 1913. Retrieved 1 March 2024.
- ^ "Aunty Josie Agius". City of Adelaide. 1 September 2019. Retrieved 3 March 2024.
- ^ "Josie Agius". Experience Adelaide. 15 April 2021. Retrieved 3 March 2024.
- ^ "Josie Agius showered with honours for her work in Aboriginal health, education, sport and culture". Adelaide AZ. Retrieved 3 March 2024.
- ^ Copley, Vince; McInerney, Lea (2022). The Wonder of Little Things. Harper Collins. p. 8,10,12,28. ISBN 978-1-4607-1483-6.
And then there were cousins older than me who I called Aunty too, like Aunty Gladys.
- ^ Phillips, Sandra (10 January 2022). "Vince Copley had a vision for a better Australia – and he helped make it happen, with lifelong friend Charles Perkins". The Conversation. Retrieved 1 March 2024.
- ^ a b Hall, Robert (1996). "Timothy Hughes (1919–1976)". Australian Dictionary of Biography. Retrieved 31 January 2024.
This article was published in hardcopy in Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 14, (Melbourne University Press), 1996
- ^ Barila, Greg. "Doris, an inspiration to all", Messenger (Adelaide, Australia), 24 November 2004, p. 31 (via online NewsBank) "[Husband] Mr Graham died in 1994."
- ^ a b c Argent, Peter (6 June 2014). "Celebrating an electrifying footy family". InDaily. Retrieved 1 March 2024.
- ^ "Speaker Profiles". Australian Society of Archivists, Inc. Retrieved 3 March 2024.
Laterthanyouthink (talk) 06:36, 28 March 2024 (UTC)