Talk:Kris Kobach

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Photo[edit]

Who the heck picked this photo that makes the Attorney General of Kansas look like a sloppy goober? There are many photos that come up on google images where he at least looks decently dressed and professional. 71.206.97.12 (talk) 04:36, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Conservatism in the United States[edit]

@StAnselm: Why did you delete w:Category:Conservatism in the United States from this article? It looks like whitewashing to me. ???

Thanks for your work to help create "a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge." DavidMCEddy (talk) 14:57, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because the category description says "Conservative American people should not be placed in this Category but added to List of American conservatives." i.e. it's not for individuals but for organizations and ideas. St Anselm (talk) 15:10, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. Might you have time to (a) add Kobach to the "Politicians, office holders, and jurists" section of the said, "List of American conservatives", then (b) add a link in this article to "See also: List of American conservatives, and (c) delete this category, as you did? Thanks, again. DavidMCEddy (talk) 16:44, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's the issue of notability. Looking at that list, it has only the most notable conservatives - the household names. I'm not sure Kobach qualifies, to be honest. St Anselm (talk) 17:31, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are currently 277 "References" in this article vs. 31 for Arthur Vandenberg, 100 for Robert A. Taft, and 11 for John W. Bricker, the first three "Politicians, office holders, and jurists" in the "List of American conservatives" that you mentioned. I don't know how many references are needed to establish notability for that list, but I would naively think that 277 "References" should count for something in this regard, especially given Kobach's notoriety as former Kansas Secretary of State, current Kansas Attorney General, and the behavior documented in the Wikipedia article on Fish v. Kobach. DavidMCEddy (talk) 17:43, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done St Anselm (talk) 17:24, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Excessive length[edit]

This article is almost 14,000 words of article text. Per WP:TOOBIG this puts the article in the area where trimming/dividing should happen. The article's text is poorly linked together with much of the information just being individual examples of things that either are redundant to the larger picture or provide excessive detail. This is especially true of the material in his political career section and too a lesser extent in the immigration section. Of course both sections are important but both could be about half as long and still get the core ideas across. Help in trimming this article down would be appreciated. Springee (talk) 12:42, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Whitewashing Kolfage[edit]

@LiwenAristodemos: Why do you say "no RS provided for description" when you changed the description of Brian Kolfage from 'social media "fake news" scion' to 'social media creator'?

The sentence containing the phrase '"fake news" scion' to 'creator" cited an article in the Phoenix New Times which said essentially that. See:

Joyce, Tom (October 19, 2018). "Conservative Veteran Banned by Facebook: 'There Was No Real Reason'". LifeZette. Retrieved May 19, 2019.

In addition, the Wikipedia article on Kolfage provides ample documentation for the claim. I'm reverting your edit. ??? DavidMCEddy (talk) 00:13, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A sidenote, but LifeZette is not a RS. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 02:25, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]