Talk:Knives, Forks and Spoons Press

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This page should not be speedy deleted because...[edit]

This page should not be speedily deleted because... It is about one of the UK's biggest avant garde poetry publishers - please note that I didn't use that phrase in the article because I've deliberately kept a journalistic stance in writing this piece, so kept away from superlatives and used independent citations about the press from sources other than the press.

It fits wiki's criteria for inclusion - because it publishes work that is not solely company literature.

This article and its information is of wide relevance in literary terms, as the press is very active on the literary scene in general (organising spoken word events, promoting outsider poets) etc.

I don't know if the claim for removal is made by someone who knows anything about the poetry world or poetry publishing industry? It's not advertising, it's general and literary interest. (Quite part from anything else, talk to any poetry publisher, or indeed non-poetry publisher and they will tell you there's no money in poetry-publishing - it's about the art and the love of that artform. ) As indicated in the article, KFS was itself formed as part of a literary movement.

It is in this sense, as relevant, if not more relevant to other wikipedia articles, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penned_in_the_Margins (in the experimental field, though KFS actually publishes far more books a year) or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodaxe_Books (Bloodaxe may be bigger/publish more books a year but its output is largely mainstream poetry)or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seren_Press (again, possibly this press puts out more books a year, but is very, very much more mainstream focussed).

--SarahJamesorLeavesley (talk) 18:59, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion[edit]

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... in addition to reasons already given (including the other publishers on wikipedia, which this press sits alongside, if one takes the time to search for the press name on wikipedia, one will find it is also already referenced on numerous organisation and poets' pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Clements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Marks_Awards_for_Poetry_Pamphlets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniele_Pantano https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Baker_(poet) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geraldine_Monk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_in_poetry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_J_Fowler ... In all seriousness, this press is clearly of general public and more specifically relevance and interest - otherwise it wouldn't be listed within so many articles already on wikipedia.

And, as I have already stated elsewhere, similar presses such as Penned in the Margins, Bloodaxe Books and Seren are on wikipedia with similar style entries.




--SarahJamesorLeavesley (talk) 19:28, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion[edit]

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... This is my first try at adding something to wiki. As in the notice above ALL encyclopedic content I have included is verifiable. I've put forward good reasons above for how and why it's written the way it is - none of which reasons has yet been answered or replied to, so presumably that's because there is not good reply to them? Instead of trying to label me as a spammer, if there really is a genuine problem, perhaps someone could take the time to explain what it is? --SarahJamesorLeavesley (talk) 07:15, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]